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  JW Tragic murder was by JW

  by snare&racket in

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  http://www.katu.com/news/local/report-holt-heichel-were-members-of-same-church-175169201.html.

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  how sad......

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  LisaRose

  I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that they were having an affair. It's possible, but also possible that she just refused his advances and that made him angry enough to kill her. What a tragety, my heart goes out to her husband and family.
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  Songs that make you cry

  by sooner7nc in

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  there have been several threads about music the last few days, so i decided to start another.. this song absolutely makes me tear up every time i hear it.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_3byxasmm.

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  LisaRose

  I Dreaned A Dream from Les Mis. I had the music from the show on CD. It was a time when I was still in and the song always made me cry. The background of the story (in the play) was that the character Fantine had a child with a wealthy student. He leaves her with no money, then she loses her job at a factory and becomes a prostitute to pay for her child's care. So the song is basically about despair. I think listening to that song helped me realize that I couldn't go on as I was. I realized I was very lonely and my life had lost all meaning.
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  Could you live with not talking to your JW family for the rest of your life?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  one of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.

  as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .

  i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.

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  LisaRose

  My parents have passed away, I have a brother and one sister and some neices and nephews left in. I miss them, but it's their choice, I don't lose any sleep over it. I decided if they die before me I won't bother going to their funeral. Why would I go to the funeral of someone who wont talk to me?

  So, yes I could live with it the rest of my life.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are----(fill in the blank)

  by minimus in

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  jehovah's witnesses are what???

  this should be fun!.

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  LisaRose

  Deceived, duped and driven to drink.
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  How Suicidal Thoughts can take over your Life.

  by Lady Lee in

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  how suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.

  i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.

  i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.

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  LisaRose

  I had a bad experience with one medication, but I do believe antidepressants can be a life saver. I have taken other medications with no problems at all. The right medication can bring you out of a depression and give you time to get your life back on track. I think some people think an anti depressant is some kind of "happy pill" that fixes everything and is a cop out. That is not the case at all. There are many ways to treat depression, that is just one of them.

  You have to do your homework though. If I had spent a few minutes doing research before I took the Cymbalta, I could have saved myself a lot of grief. At the least I would have known not to ever miss a pill. I was given this by a PA, not a doctor. I think you are better off going through a psychiatrist, not a regular MD. They are better at evaluating your condition and knowing what is best for your particular issues. And Cymbalta has helped other people where nothing else did, so it has it's uses, you just have to be very, very careful, especially when stopping it.
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  How Suicidal Thoughts can take over your Life.

  by Lady Lee in

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  how suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.

  i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.

  i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.

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  LisaRose

  Thank you for sharing your story, your honesty and courage in discussing these very painful emotions will help many, I'm sure. I have a tendency to depression that was also inherited by my daughter. I has suicidal thoughts as a teen, but not seriously. My daughter has the even earlier. She was asking me about it when only 6 or 7. I found out years later that at age ten, she brought a lot of aspirin to school with her, in case she wanted to end her life. It seemed to be a fixation. As a teen there were two attempts.

  After a lot of therapy, she is doing very well in her life, although I believe she will always be vulnerable. She never got baptized and I wouldn't let the elders any where near her, as I knew it would not help her. I left myself, shortly later.

  I believe the JW mindset of constantly waiting to possibly be destroyed at Armageddon did add to the negative thought patterns she was born with. As a toddler she was obsessed with the Bible stories book. I shudder to think what those violent stories did to her sensitive nature.

  I had my own experience with suicidal thoughts after taking the drug Cymbalta. I didn't know that if you miss even one pill you will go into withdrawal. I had some very odd and unusual thought and I became very aggressive and argumentative. I finally realized what it was and got off the drug. It took months of slowly decreasing the dosage and it was really hard.
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  Alex lost his house playing the stock market

  by solomon in

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  2. bible

  in the january 2013 study watchtower:.

  alex got caught up in trading in the stock market, thinking he could soon quit his job and enter the pioneer service.

  engrossed.

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  LisaRose

  There are ways to invest in stocks so as to minimize risk. Alex was stupid to think he could borrow money and time the system and make a quick payoff. The only way that happens is if you just happen to get lucky or you have inside knowledge (which is illegal). In the first place you should only invest what you can afford. The closer you are to retirement (or whenever you anticipate you will need the money back) the less risky your stocks should be. If done wisely, stocks are not that much of a gamble. While in the short term, they go up and down, over the long term they keep your money from getting eaten up with inflation. But instead of telling people how to properly invest, the Watchtower uses scare tactics to keep people from investing at all. If they told people how to invest, then it would look like they don't think this system is ending. But that is hypocrisy because they do it themselves.
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  Long time Lurker, ready to join in...

  by Blackbird Singing in

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  hi all, i'm a long time lurker, ready to join in and add my two cents worth now and then!

  i was in the religion for 25 years, out now for 8, along with my husband, daughter, and son!

  i would have to say pretty much the whole time i was in i didnt want to be, pretty much "dreaded" all aspects of it, meetings, service, assemblies, and talks, i hated talks, man o man would i be grouchy the whole week i had a scheduled talk.. we didnt have much family in, but lots of friends and many jw employees, pretty much lost all that, down to just one jw employee left(thats a good thing).

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  Hello Haboob I am glad you decided to pop up. When and if you decide to tell your story, I will be interested in reading it. It just feels so good when you can speak your truth without fear, something you can never do among the Jehovah's Witnesses. Enjoy the freedom you have here. Sometimes people here disagree and say things you might not like, but that goes with people being able to say what they think. Don't take anything personally and you should be fine.
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  Did you ever shun people when you were a dub? How did it feel?

  by oldlightnewshite in

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  2. beliefs

  okay, i don't know lots of people that were df'd, but of all the times i've encountered df people when i was a dub, they actually blanked me!

  it was always something that i had fixed in my mind that the jws had dead wrong, even when i was an uber dub.

  i remember several times when i used to arrive late at meetings, and i'd make a point of getting eye contact with the poor dub at the back sitting on the naughty step.

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  LisaRose

  Shunning people just never felt right, I had a hard time doing it. It's one thing when you see them at the hall, quite another to run into someone you know out and about. I knew very few JWs who could maintain the shun in that situation. The whole thing just seems cruel now. I have heard you have to wait at least six months before you can get reinstated. I'm sure a lot of people just give up rather than suffer through six months of meeting attendence as a pariah. I had a friend whose daughter was DFd for heavy petting. The boy involved was reproved (elders son) . She tried getting reinstated, but they turned her down. She finally gave up. She got some good therapy and moved on with her life. I am sure there are many out there who would still be JWs, but were so abused by the elders they realized TTATT. Six months is a long time, how many young ones will suffer that?
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  Have you ever worked with someone famous or relatives of any celebrity?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i have!

  i worked with hank aaron's daughter for 18 months.

  she was a sweet lady.

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  LisaRose

  I went to school with Kevin Costner . I really didn't know him, but I am pretty sure he was in a Tolkein class I took.