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  A SPECIAL OCCASION.....

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  i came across a saying that i especially like: 'don't ever save anything for a special occasion.

  every day you are alive is a special occasion.

  compare that to the jw mindset that says this world is a terrible place and that jws will only be truly happy 'someday' when they get to 'paradise'.

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  LisaRose

  I sell antiques (well, really, just good junk), so I often go to estate sales. I often see lovely things that people got in their life that they put away and never used, it makes me a little sad. I get that people of that generation lived through the depression and learned to save things, but I wonder why they didn't wear that sexy nightgown, drink from those Crystal glasses, or use that silver teapot. The best sales are where you see things people bought on their travels, lovely clothes that were worn and loved, books that were read and enjoyed and furniture that was lived in. These things have a patina that is more interesting to me than any unused item, and tells a story of a life well lived.

  It's not a dress rehearsal.
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  My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!

  by Witness 007 in

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  visiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.

  my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .

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  LisaRose

  he fact of the matter is that most of the time, you have to manifest an interest in the occult above and beyond what you might consider normal. The more ignorant you are, the greater the chance you will be harassed too - not that ignorance alone is a factor - but ignorance and keen interest is a catalyst.

  I know a local fellow who made a card board ouija board when he was a teen and that's all it took. He has told me all the stories and even someone who moved into his old place has now been having problems with spirits. The common denominator isn't him nor the house - it's the willful ignorance of the people who think there are good spirits and bad spirits and all that soft namby-pamby approach that demons like to feed on.

  Demons are not dumb - they know exactly what they are, where they are, where they are at in the stream of time, and have a much greater knowledge of the physical universe than any human alive today. Once you are educated on what they are and what they are trying to do, they generally leave or don't even bother coming around. There are plenty more places for them that are more condusive to the ignorance they feed on - like Africa, South America, Mexico, and 3rd world countries and many catholic dominated cultures.

  I left the JWs so I wouldn't have to deal with ignorance like this. There are no demons, there is no Satan. Those stories are just that, stories. I could use a Ouija board while praying to Satan and wearing a pentagram and nothing would happen. Nothing.

  Stop being so gullible.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are the only people who don't practice war and who preach worldwide!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.

  they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.

  nothing else matters.

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  LisaRose

  Being a pacifist is one of those things that sounds like a virtue, but really isn't. Imagine a bully beating up on an old lady while you stood and watched and did nothing, because you philosophically don't believe in hurting others. Does that make you virteous? I don't think so. Then imagine standing around while the bully took out all the other people watching, one by one, except you. What do you think would happen next? Obviously he will then go after you. Does that seem smart?

  War is a necessary evil. The best way to assure peace is to have a strong military. My husband is a retired Army warrant officer, he is the most peaceable person I know, but he knows that in order for religions like the Jehovah's Witnesses to exist, someone has to do the dirty work that they won't do. If the US did not have a strong military, how long do you thing it would be before radical Muslims took over? How many Jehovah's Witnesses would there be then?

  The JWs are so proud of the fact that they were persecuted in Natzi Germany, being willing to go to the concentration camps before they violated their pacifist stance, but if others had not been willing to go to war the Natzis would never have been stopped and we would all be speaking German now. And the Jehovah's Witnesses basically volunteered for the camps, they could have avoided them by pretending to support Hitler. There really is no virtue in being stupid. It's also hypocritical, as the Watchtower hides and lies about their past, and practices "spiritual warfare"; in other words, lying. So what is better, refusing to tell one lie, going to the camps and providing free labor for an evil regime, or doing what you need to do to avoid that and then working to bring down that regime?

  Also, the JWs justify their pacifist stance by insisting the world is ending soon, so it doesn't matter which governmental is in power, but since they are mistaken about being in the last days, it makes that argument meaningless.
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  My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  visiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.

  my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .

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  Sounds like my mom. She was staying with my sister once, she got upset and went back home because some friends used my sister's barn to crash one night before they left on a hiking trip. They were of the opposite sex and not married, so shocking, she didn't want to stay in a house with sexual immorality going on! Never mind they were not a couple, sleeping in separate sleeping bags, in a barn, and my sister wasn't a JW at the time anyway.

  Nutty religion that makes people so obsessive and afraid of offending God/elders/other JWs/their super important super sensitive conscience
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  Mormon Church Founder had 33 wives

  by designs in

  1. social
  2. current

  we know russell, rutherford franz and knorr wer kooky but joseph smith takes the cake.. the salt lake tribune of all newspapers has run an article on the lds founder's 33 wives, most of whom were teenagers.. http://www.sltrib.com/news/173364-155/plural-smith-joseph-marriage-lds-says.

  would you stay an lds after knowing this, how would you rationalize staying with this knowledge.. .

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  Funny, I was just reading about him. It was interesting to me was that his first wife maintained until her dying day that she was the only wife. I think supposedly they were "spiritual marriages", no consummation. Also, they did genetic testing of the descendents of the men who were thought to be his sons, none actually were. Still, when a man that age marries girl that age, it's hard to think they are only interested in the spiritual aspects of the situation, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

  His financial dealings, history of scams and outlandish claims makes Chares Taze Russel and his miracle wheat seem quite tame.
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  New Zealand News: Jehovah's Witness dies after refusing blood transfusion

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah's witness dies after refusing blood transfusion.

  monday, october 20, 2014.

  3 news - nzn.

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  LisaRose

  My ex husband refused a transfusion even though he had been disfellowshipped for 25 years. He had severe internal bleeding due to Chrons disease, his hemoglobin was down to three, a very dangerous level. Unfortunately the Watchtower does a really good job of making transfusion seem much more dangerous than they are and they also make it seem like a worse sin than sexual immorality. As we have seen, many people are affected by the teachings long after they have stopped associating, cult mind control at work.
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  New Zealand News: Jehovah's Witness dies after refusing blood transfusion

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah's witness dies after refusing blood transfusion.

  monday, october 20, 2014.

  3 news - nzn.

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  LisaRose

  I had the exact same surgery, when I was still a JW. I was in extremely poor shape by the time I was correctly diagnosed, it was emergency surgery. My surgeon came close to doing open surgery, but managed to finish using only laparoscopy. It's too bad the surgeon didn't know, he might have avoided open surgery and she might not have died. It's still a stupid Watchtower policy, a ridiculous doctrine based on fear and superstition that they can't admit is wrong.
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  What's Artwork Question

  by JustVisting in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does wt artwork always have one person that is looking at the reader when depicting a group of people?

  whether it's the little girl in the sermon on the amount scene or the woman in the armagedon scene.

  what is the psychological and/or subliminal effect of this one the reader?

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  LisaRose

  There may be subliminal words in the magazines, but there is little evidence that things that are not perceived on a conscious level can affect you.

  But I'm sure it has provided some relief from the boredom of the Watchtower study for those that did notice.
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  "The Waters" of Jehovah are drying up in Australia...65% young ones leave!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the international convention last week i caught up with my old congregation and asked about the young ones...there were 2 answers.

  1. they flat out left got a boyfriend etc.

  and 2. havent seen them for awhile meaning they faded or went off the grid so as not to be disfellowshipped.

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  LisaRose

  That's why they are coming out with all the children's videos, they are seeing that young ones growing up in the organization do not feel connected to the religion. Maybe they feel that parents are not doing a good enough job of training their children, so they are cutting out the middleman and attempting to get them brainwashed before they hit puberty and have a mind of their own.

  I dont think it will work, I think many parents are ambivilent about the organization themselves and are not comfortable brow beating their children they way their parents did to them.
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  High Ranking Scientology Members Go Crazy

  by lambsbottom in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg70fhg0wl4.

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  LisaRose

  Scientology does not believe in psychiatrists at all. Tom Cruise once publicly put down Brooke shields for taking medication for post partum depression.

  That woman looked demented, which is great, now everyone can see what a horrible cult it is.