Posts by LisaRose

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one last step..Is being mentally out the same as being emotionally out?

by MissFit in

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we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.

i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.

i had been yo-young back and forth for years.

LisaRose

I don't know if some of us will ever be totally free of the effects of being in this religion. It's like an old injury, we may be fine one day, but then the cold weather hits and it aches all over again.

I have been out for 15 years now, but I was a JW for thirty years. Seeing my JW family in August at my brothers memorial service made me realize that I miss them. My JW family did talk to me, but there were walls up, it was hard to see them and be confronted with the fact that they think I am less than. I also know the next time I see them will be at the next funeral.

I am happy in my life and so grateful to be free of this soul sucking cult, so I try to focus on that.

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wow, shaking my head

by Hortensia in

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my neighbor told me she had been talking about me recently.

"i was saying to carrie in the office i just don't see how anyone can deny the existence of a higher power.

she needed some q-tips, and found a box of them on the free table by the office.

LisaRose

People do not like to have their superstitions challenged, They use them like a security blanket to feel comfortable.

I have to grit my teeth when people say things like....

"Everything happens for a reason" Right. What was the reason ffor the holocaust?

"God must have wanted him up in heaven" Really? What a selfish God.

"God must have been looking out for me" Then he must hate my neighbor that was in an accident last week.

"God never gives us more than we can bear". So God knows exactly how much to torture us? How strange.

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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!

by BU2B in

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to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.

around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.

he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.

LisaRose

That is almost unbelievable. I can understand someone who is twenty having that kind of mindset, but come one, they are old enough to know that Jehovah doesn't always provide. I am about that age, even as a JW I knew I had to plan for retirement, I didn't want to end up in subsidized housing, living on social security. I suppose they will be looking for help from you when the inevitable happens.

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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!

by hoser in

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that's the word according to my mil.

mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.

her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.

LisaRose

Predictions like that are useful to keep people from leaving or engaging in any kind of a life other than the Organization. People are willing to put personal desires and plans on hold since "it will only be for a few years since we are so close to the end". It works especially well when it is only hinted at, or passed through the grapevine, that way it seems more like inside information, plus no one has to take responsibility when it doesn't happen. They have been playing this game a long time, they are very good at it.

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Changing Careers: The difficult path to starting over.

by adjusted knowledge in

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i became employed with my current company after high school in 1995. i'm a manager and make decent income for the area i live ($65k).

it provides for the basic and some extra.

i have a wife and a daughter.

LisaRose

I say go for nursing if that is what you really want. Yes, it's tough to get in, but you for sure won't get in if you don't try. My husband and I were invited to the RN pinning ceremony of an acquaintance, it was very impressive. It was clear these graduates worked very, very hard to get through the program and made many sacrifices, but they were happy they stuck it out. As each graduate was pinned by their family a statement from the graduate was read thanking their loved ones for their sacrifices and help. It was a very moving experience and gave me new respect for the RN program.

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900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution

by Perry in

we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .

selection to account for the complexity of life.

careful examination of the .

LisaRose

Well said Apog.

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I'm thinking of going back

by Spectre in

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......to see how much i get love bombed in my tight pants and bright socks.. i bet they'll totally respect my gb approved pinky ring though.. i haven't been to a meeting since 1994 so i wonder if they'll get the irony if i ask, "so what's changed?".

good effin' lord....i just realized i've been out for 20 years.. .

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LisaRose

You need to go to metrosexual.com and get one of those suits Anthony was talking about, that's what's going to really impress them down at the kingdom hall.

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My Breaking Point -- 11/9/14

by game1914over in

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i have enjoyed reading your comments during the past four years.

deep down inside, i have always been agnostic.

the first few chapters in genesis are contradictory and differing.. no one has ever been able to answer my question: "why was satan ever created?".

LisaRose

Welcome. You make a very good point about the focus on spandex pants and metrosexual suits when there are pedophiles in the organization. You could say the same about domestic violence and business fraud also, all problems among people in the organization, but they cannot talk about that, because then they would have to admit that it is a problem.

It was ridiculous to go on about the father who raised seven kids, but the last two weren't ministerial servants yet. We know that they have a very low retention rate among young people, so if any one has seven out of seven children in the religion they are doing remarkably well. Then those who have children who have left are made to feel even worse, like it was all their fault. This religion has nothing to offer, it's no surprise most don't want to stick around.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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LisaRose

I agree, such stupidity displayed in his rant means that they are their own worst enemies and don't really need us anymore.

I was thinking that in some areas the local brothers might be putting a softer spin on their talks, so many JWs may not be aware of how crazy and hardcore the governing body is. It might be doing more harm than good to have them advertise how nutty they really are. I can just see the teen agers rolling their eyes at the tight pants/spanx comments.

When my kids were teens they had the talk about music, the speaker went on and on about how bad the song "Mack the knife" was. It's a jazz standard from the sixties, they had never heard of it. It was embarrassing, they were so out of touch to the problems young people were facing at the time, things are no better now.

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Im still young (19)....just reading Crisis of Conscious

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi guys, ive finally got a copy of coc from my local library, im on page 120ish and im really enjoying it!

the thing that gets me now that im enlightened is how little the rank and file know about anything this organazation does!

everything is so secretive and covered up behind a curtain.

LisaRose

Try just asking them relevant questions if the opportunity come up. Like "why aren't we supposed to read literature that is critical of the organization, shouldn't the truth stand up to criticism? We encourage Catholics to read our literature that is critical of their church, why the double standard". The religion has so many rules that make no sense if you think about them, but people don't think critically. If you ask most witnesses to defend their beliefs they cannot, even after a lifetime of meetings and study. There is something fundamentally wrong when you are not allowed to read anything critical of the Watchtower or ask certain questions.