Posts by LisaRose

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can an unhappy married woman vent?

by sowhatnow in

i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .

let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].

he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.

LisaRose

Your husband is an alcoholic, I don't think there is a marriage to save, he is married to the bottle. Time to kick him to the curb and get on with your life. He sounds like my first husband. I stuck it out for 28 years, mostly because I was JW and thought I was stuck. Leaving him was the best thing I ever did in my life. I had gotten so used to it I didn't realize how much it was affecting me. He wasn't evil, just a self centered user who didn't know how to play well in the sandbox. I did everything, cooking, cleaning, laundry, even though I worked full time. He never said anything nice, we were basically roommates, we didn't even watch TV together. He holed up in his den with his beer, tv and computer, that was his life.

So finally I get up the courage to get a divorce and he is moving out. He had given me the flu and I was really sick the day he left. I am laying there with a temp of 103 and he comes up to me and says "there are no clean towels!". I lifted my head andjust looked at him. So he says "what will I use this dry myself off with?". That's how big of a baby he was, and it was partially my fault because I stayed and took it, and didn't demand he be better (good little JW wife I was). He never owned up to anything, it was all someone else's fault. I married someone else, so he refers to me (to our children) as "your mother, the whore", classy, right? They can't stand him either. Don't waste another minute on this loser.

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What products have you bought that exceed your expectations?

by skeeter1 in

well?.

LisaRose

Two more I thought of. My black and Decker cordless drill/driver. I got it as a Xmas gift eight years ago, it still works even though I use it almost daily. I also have a black and Decker toaster oven, I have had a few over the years, they last a good long time and are very useful. Since it's just my husband and I, I often use it instead of the big oven, which saves on electricity.

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Encinitas Congregation Encinitas CA.

by exwhyzee in

jw
friends

anyone from that hall?.

we attended a memorial for a long time friend there this past weekend.

it was my first time in a kingdom hall since memorial 2008. as per usual, the people were lovely but the message had gaps and left me feeling somewhat blank and cold.

LisaRose

It's your life I guess, I just wonder if you are just focusing on a few good things and forgetting the bad parts, the sheer boredom of the meetings, the futile nature of the field service, etc. Why not spend that same time and effort into developing new relationships and finding a new group to be involved with? There are churches that have the good parts of being in a religion, without all the JW baggage.

I do get why you might miss some things, I am not a believer, but I was attending church for a while, I actually enjoyed it very much. The services were interesting, the people were nice, very welcoming, they had great music and good food afterwards, they did a lot of charitable work. They were even fine with my lack of belief in God. It was in another town unfortunately, so we stopped going. We are going the Christmas eve services at my husband's parents church (same denomination), I am really looking forward to it.

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What products have you bought that exceed your expectations?

by skeeter1 in

well?.

LisaRose

I am very happy with my Kindle Fire. When my first gave out after two years of constant use, I was happy to buy another, at $119 each I don't expect them to last forever.

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Emblem Takers Mentally Unstable?

by Cold Steel in

onthewayout wrote: of course, for quite awhile (and probably still), congregations have been viewing any relatively young (maybe under 50 or even 60) partakers as mentally unstable and watchtower ignores such people anyway and says they must listen to the elders.

is this correct?

ever since the emblem-takers were given emeritus status as members of the faithful and discreet slave, have they been relegated to standard membership?

LisaRose

I believe there are a group of ex JWs that partake (on their own), and still believe they are of the anointed.

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Encinitas Congregation Encinitas CA.

by exwhyzee in

jw
friends

anyone from that hall?.

we attended a memorial for a long time friend there this past weekend.

it was my first time in a kingdom hall since memorial 2008. as per usual, the people were lovely but the message had gaps and left me feeling somewhat blank and cold.

LisaRose

The association afterward was easy and natural and reminded me of the way it used to be when all was well for us and JWdom. Maybe that in itself should be enough for a person ?

A few nice interactions do not a good life make.

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Re Hostage victims killed in Sydney: "dont worry, at least they will NOW get a ressurection"

by stuckinarut2 in

so most would now know of the vile act in sydney last week where a man held hostage over 17 people in the lindt cafe in the middle of sydney.. two people were murdered...a beautiful, educated lawyer,loving mother of three, and a brave, loving young man working as the cafe manager.. this senseless and cruel act has touched everyone deeply, especially in the communities of sydney.

the outpouring of grief and support for the victims and their families has been immense.. i was therefore outraged to have the following comment made by a witness in conversation at the kingdom hall:.

"well, we dont need to be sad, because at least now they (the two victims) will get a ressurection.

LisaRose

By that line of thinking they could do more good by becoming mass murderers themselves, as more people could be assured of a resurrection. The average JW has probably never converted anyone to the religion, but they could save the lives of quite a few by this method.

(Sarcasm, obviously, do not attempt to become a mass murderer)

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does the wt always carefully phrase sentences so as to never take blame?

by sowhatnow in

im recalling a time when i sat and circled words in a watchtower article, indicating strongly the fact that it is in fact the writters opinion.. however just the suggestion in the sentence these words are ignored.. for example.

it is our understanding.

we believe this to be the case.

LisaRose

Evidently, The Watchtower wants to make assertions that they can distance themselves from later, if necessary. We can conclude they seek plausible deniability, refusing to let their yes mean yes and their no mean no. It is our understanding they follow a pattern of using such "weasel words" and we should be confident that things they teach now as truth will later be reversed and explained away as "taking". It is suggested that nothing they print can be believed and we can conclude that possibly even they don't believe what they print. Honest hearted persons are wise to be cautious about what they read and it is suggested they don't believe any of it. What a fine example we set when we refuse to be taken in by such lies.

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No words

by mikeypants in

so, i'm visiting family this week who are all jws.

yesterday, it started with one of them talking about a co giving her some points on time keeping for service.

she is now writing a letter before she drives to service, so she can count her drive time.

LisaRose

This was why I hated going out at all, it just seemed so inefficient and futile. If preaching was so important why did we waste so much time doing everything but preaching? As a working mom my free time was precious, I wasn't going to waste my Saturday morning driving around and going on coffee breaks.

It was all about numbers on a time slip, not reaching hearts and minds, all for show. A scripture comes to mind, "having a FORM of godly devotion but proving false to its power".

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Emblem Takers Mentally Unstable?

by Cold Steel in

onthewayout wrote: of course, for quite awhile (and probably still), congregations have been viewing any relatively young (maybe under 50 or even 60) partakers as mentally unstable and watchtower ignores such people anyway and says they must listen to the elders.

is this correct?

ever since the emblem-takers were given emeritus status as members of the faithful and discreet slave, have they been relegated to standard membership?

LisaRose

Since the announcement in the Thirties (I think) that there was an earthly class, the number of partakers (heavenly class) steadily declined, and they taught that the 144,000 had been all been selected, so there wasn't room for any more. Then the numbers started rising again, and they decided that some who had previously partook, but then left the organization, were not replaced until they died, which explained the rising numbers.

I have been gone a while, so I don't know if the numbers are rising still, or even if they report the numbers now. When I was in, people were skeptical of any new partakers, especially if they were known to have mental health issues, which they often did. My personal feeling is that some people are just prone to altered states of consciousness, and the only way they can make sense of it is to believe they are of the anointed. Of the ones I was well aquainted with, one had anorexia, one was bipolar, one had seizures and one had episodes of fugue states where they acted co mpletely different, childlike and silly, then didn't remember the whole episode later.

They are no longer part of the FDS, they got demoted, now it's just the GB.