Posts by LisaRose

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Here at last, My JC letter. No response but heard thru the grapevine that I was DA'd anyways.

by Question_Mans_interpretation in

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hello all, i finally got around to posting my letter to my judicial committee meeting requests.

sorry its kind of long, it came to 4 pages because of the special meeting requests.

tuesday january 28, 2014.

LisaRose

As Jehovah's Witnesses we all thought we belonged to a loving organization that valued truth and justice. It's a bitter pill to swallow that none of these things are important to the them, they only care about quickly getting rid of any individual that they feel threatens them. They do not care about individuals, only about keeping people ignorant of their shameful history and practices. Truth does not matter, justice does not matter, individuals do not matter. It's a cult, that's,what they do.

It's a hard transition to make, losing your friends, family and way of life, but it does get easier. While you cannot replace family, you will make new friends and you will have a better life, free of the control of a heartless cult.

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Oregon, Hillsboro Tribune, Article: Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case in feds' hands

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/255785-125363-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case-in-feds-hands.

lawsuit seeks $10.5 million from hillsboro church, watchtower society .

attorneys for a 40-year-old woman and a 38-year-old man who say they were sexually abused nearly 30 years ago by a church elder in hillsboro want to have a lawsuit filed by the pair last fall placed back in state court jurisdiction.

LisaRose

It seems the Watchtower would rather lose these lawsuits than turn over the requested documentation. Obviously whatever is in these documents is potentially more damaging to them than losing millions in judgements. Obviously, what is in there is so damming they stand to lose a substantial number of followers (and more importantly, they money they contribute) if it becomes known.

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Memorial Invitation campaign—A bitter experience

by economy in

last year when i went to distribute memorial invitation, i had a bad time talking to a house-holder who happened to be an ex-nun.

she said: you are wasting your time.

jesus had no idea that his death would have a sin-atoning value (which is of course a later invention by later theologians.

LisaRose

So true. The bible is simply a collection of stories and opinions written by various men over several centuries. It does not contain any clear, unified message as claimed by the Watchtower. They can only present the illusion of such by selective quoting of isolated scriptures even parts of scripture while adding a lot of convoluted explanations.

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A new low in public shaming (and groveling)

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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a local elderette at my former hall (the same type person who posts selfies while out in "service") posted this public admonishment.

the responses are so pathetic.

these are all adults, but they still act like scared children:.

LisaRose

Nothing like a dose of public shaming to make you feel all warm and fuzzy about your congregation. I wonder how many are doing a slow burn because they had a legitimate reason for not staying but didn't feel they had to explain themself to sister bitchy pants?

It makes me think of this scripture:

Matt6:1 "Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven"

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A brilliant psychologist

by voodoo lady in

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i've been seeing a brilliant psychologist.

he has been pivotal in drawing the parallels between my jw upbringing - specifically the hypocrisy i saw as a child - and the reason i've tolerated lies and inconsistencies in my most significant adult relationship.. i've seen one other psychologist in the past.

she didn't get the issues surrounding the religion whatsoever, didn't regard that aspect of my backstory as relevant, and was of little help to me.. has anyone else seen a psychologist - whether for help with coping in the aftermath of leaving the religion, or for seemingly unrelated issues that actually turned out to be related?

LisaRose

Any psychologist that doesn't think being in a controlling destructive cult is relevant to psychological issues should have their licence revoked.

My daughter had substantial psychological issues as a teen, I think getting such help was pivotal in her getting better and going on to be a happy, well adjusted adult.

Some therapists are better than others, if you don't feel you are getter better or don't click with the first one, don't give up, keep trying until you get the help you need.

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The Neurochemistry of Flow States, with Steven Kotler

by Brokeback Watchtower in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahp2hkue8rq

LisaRose

I have heard that any hobby or work where you experience flow provides some of the same benefits as meditation.

Powerful stuff that. It helps my ADD brain

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The Neurochemistry of Flow States, with Steven Kotler

by Brokeback Watchtower in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahp2hkue8rq

LisaRose

Interesting stuff, I have heard of the concept of flow, it's very interesting. Many years ago I started a hobby, doing silk and dried flower arrangements. I distinctly remember the first time my subconscious took over and I found my hands doing something I had not consciously planned. It was an amazing feeling, like tapping into a different part of my brain. The other thing was that I found it changed how I did my regular job. I ended up coming up with a creative idea for a spreadsheet that automated a time consuming audit function, it won me an award and a trip to the Washington D.C.

That was many years ago and my hobby eventually evolved into a business with antiques and creative re-use of vintage things and I still tap into my creativity using this concept.

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Pride or Humility - I guess it depends how you look at it..

by bradford in

one of the constant themes of the literature and of the well meaning witnesses who regurgitate it to those that have left or are in the process of leaving is this:.

you are filled with pride.

you think you know better than jehovah's organization.

LisaRose

Wow, thanks! Yes, of course, feel free to quote me.

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How do you feel about religion as a whole?

by FatherFirst in

it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

just curious, a personal poll if you will.

what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

LisaRose

I don't belong to any religion, but I don't condemn religion as a whole. While there certainly been a lot of evil done in the name of religion, I have seen some good religions too. While I don't believe in God, I don't think everyone is ready to accept that he doesn't exist. Until we get to that point, I think a good religion, one that accepts science and doesn't promote hatred, is better than a bad one. Maybe eventually religion will be done away with, or maybe it will evolve into something better, who knows? I do think you cannot force people to give up that which brings them comfort, which for many is belief in God.

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Pride or Humility - I guess it depends how you look at it..

by bradford in

one of the constant themes of the literature and of the well meaning witnesses who regurgitate it to those that have left or are in the process of leaving is this:.

you are filled with pride.

you think you know better than jehovah's organization.

LisaRose

My answer to such a statement would be that if God exists, he certainly expects me to use what reasoning power I was blessed with to determine the best way to live my life. I would think he wouldn't want me to blindly follow others, but to do the hard work necessary to determine what organization, if any, is doing his will.

Having done this hard work and thoroughly investigated the WTBTS, and found that they lied about their history, beliefs and practices, honesty compelled me to sever my association with it. It was a very humbling experience to admit that everything I believed in was a lie, but that is my belief and I can do nothing less than follow my conscience, however hard that is.

If that makes me prideful in the eyes of others, then that is regrettable, but if they would condemn me without doing the hard work I did to determine the truth, then they are the prideful ones, not I, as they have blindly accepted an elaborate lie as the truth and then condemned for not doing the same.