Posts by LisaRose

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Aposta-Paparazzi

by RedPillPopper in

if the celebrity paparazzi can openly photograph the ongoings of the entertainment people, what would be the legal ramifications if any, if someone staked out the "higher-ups" of the wt and photographed their day to day activities outside of any golden compounds.

do the directors of the corporations like don adams have personal residences outside of bethel?

what kind of cars do they drive?

LisaRose

There is no reason they couldn't, as long as they don't trespass or do anything else illegal. But who would want to do that? It would take a heck of a committment in time and money. If they did find something fishy, what good would it do? Most JWs are not going to believe anything from so called apostate sources, so they would just think it's made up or that Satan attacking them.

Maybe if you could get a picture of tight pants Tony in drag and it got media attention, but other than that I don't see it being worth the effort.

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Awake! Quotes a Well-Known ex-JW Apostate in Support of Their Beliefs!?!

by Oubliette in

konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .

was it designed?

the inverted retina.

LisaRose

If the Watchtower will stoop to misquoting legitimate scientists, why would they not quote a a former JW? They don't care if he is discredited or apostate, they know the faithful rank and file don't know anything about him and won't question anything printed by the Watchtower.

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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..

by adimmedlight in

warning, novel ahead:.

after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.

i am the oldest of 5 kids.

LisaRose

Welcome, I read your whole story. You did very well with what was handed to you as a child. I just saw the video for the song "because of you" by Kelly Clarkson. It made me cry because it was about a young girl and how she was neglected by her father and had a lot of chaos because of her parent's bad marriage and how that affected her as an adult, that she was afraid to make choices and decisions in her life.I could relate because of the chaos of my childhood.

You are smart to stay away from the JWs, it's a crazy little cult that has nothing to offer but guilt and a life of being enslaved to an organization. Don't ever be tempted to go back, there are plenty of better churches out there if you feel the need.

You are young and have a whole great life ahead of you.

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Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

" twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

LisaRose

Good for you. I find you can say a lot to a JW as long as you are not rude or mean (assuming you aren't related to them). You must not have been rude or she wouldn't have listened to you that long. Hopefully you planted a seed that will sprout and grow.

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JW's copied Mormons?

by purrpurr in

i've been doing a lot of research about mind control, cults etc which led me to look into the world and beliefs of mormons.

the similarities between jw's and mormons are staggering!

it's almost a carbon copy which only a few differences.. did the jw's set out to copy them i wonder?

LisaRose

They are both cults, so it's not surprising there are similarities. While their individual beliefs are different, the culture is the same because cults use the same basic manipulations.

Controlling your time by having lots of meetings and volunteer requirements so you don't have too much time to think.

Exclusivisim, claiming to be the only route to salvation.

Deception, hiding their history and practices. The JWs lie about their failed date predictions, The Mormons lied about Joseph Smith having multiple wives and although they have recently admitted as much I doubt they are honest about his various scams, he was just a con artist that got lucky.

Fear and intimidation, saying that you must do everything they tell you or you will not gain salvation. Jehovah's Witnesses fear being disfellowshipped and dying at the big A, Mormons fear going to hell.

Love bombing and relationship control. The JWs are by far the worst because of Disfellowshiping, but both groups discourage you from having friends or getting married outside the group.

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Fun at The WT This Morning

by OneFingerSalute in

so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.

14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".

after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".

LisaRose

Wow, I bet they looked at you like you put a turd in the punch bowl. Their is obviously a lot of denial in JW land, no one wants to think they are in a strange religion that practices shunning, despite the reality.

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'Covenant' Marriages -- A new type of marriage, harder to divorce

by rebel8 in

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friends

as i understand it, covenant marriages are available in a few states.

they are a supersonic, superfine version of conservative marriage.

it's harder to divorce--it has to be with certain causes or agreement of both spouses.. covenant marriages have been criticized by human rights advocates as a potential tool for abusive spouses to restrict the escape of their victims.. in at least one state, the couple must receive premarital counseling and the signature of the counselor before obtaining a covenant marriage.

LisaRose

. Some statistics I've heard thrown around are something like 50% of marriages ending in divorce, 70% of divorces initiated by women, and the majority of the reasons given by these women are "I'm no longer satisfied with him."

Where are these statistics from? I seriously doubt "I am no longer satisfied with him" is a reason given by many woman at all, much less the majority.

According to top10s, the number one reason for divorce is marital infidelity. Since statistically men cheat on their marriage more than women, I seriously doubt "I am no longer satisfied by him" is in fact a big reason for divorce. Number two is communication breakdowns, number three is abuse, number four is financial issues. In fact "I am no longer satisfied by him" doesn't even make the top ten. I guess you could include it in the number six reason "boredom", but to prove your point you would have to prove that women get bored more often than men.

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Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

by aley63 in

i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

LisaRose

Thanks for posting that, I had never seen it before.

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pissed off my wife today at the assembly..I asked her why the bozo GB member lett has a pinky ring.

by goingthruthemotions in

so at the assembly to day that nitwit lett gave a talk....i noticed right away he had a pinky ring.

i asked my wife what was the purpose of the pinky ring?

and then asked....would jesus wear a pinky?

LisaRose

You are judgemental? That's laughable, what about spanx? Tight Pants tony? They can dish it out but can't take it?

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Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

by aley63 in

i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

LisaRose

Good one, village idiot. I was still a JW when that song was popular, it did strike me at the time that I was losing my religion.