Posts by LisaRose

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feeling of hopelessness and fear

by 060702015 in

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do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

LisaRose

O6072015, having read your other threads, it appears to me you are suffering from depression. Please seek professional counseling and get some help for this, there are many things that can be done to help you. I don't think going back to the JWs is going to help you. It may seem like they are happy, but for many, that is an act they put on when they are at the Kingdom Hall, the reality of life at home is much different. Of course some people are happy as JWs, but I suspect they are people that would be happy anywhere, some of us just were not born with the right brain chemistry for that, in which case being a JW just makes you more miserable.

If you want a religious experience there are many churches that can fill a spiritual need without the guilt and burdens of life as a Jehovah's Witness. I personally like the UCC (United Church of Christ) also called Congregational. Their motto is that "wherever you are in life's journey, you are welcome here" and they mean it. But before you do that you simply must address your depression. Please, please call a professional counselor or psychologist.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

LisaRose

I respect those who disagree with his politics, what I am talking about is those who seem to have a deep visceral hatred of him that causes them to blame him for everything and anything. The fact is the POTUS doesn't have that much power or control over everything that happens in Washington. And the belief that he is a Muslim, simply because he was born and lived ten years in a Muslim country is absurd. The gay bathhouse and murder conspiracy theories are beyond absurd. But you cant reason with people like that, they are going to believe what they believe.

But this is a thread about Gay marriage, let's get back to that.

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feeling of hopelessness and fear

by 060702015 in

jw
friends

do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

LisaRose

No, no hopelessness and fear at all, why would I feel that? I'm loving life and having a great time.

You must have been in a different congregation than me, I don't remember many of them being happy at all. One elder in the last congregation beat his wife and killed himself when his children took her away from him in fear for her life. Yeah, don't remember the happy.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

LisaRose

I don't know what it is about Obama that makes certain people froth at the mouth. It's just a never ending circus of fools, you cant read any message board about anything without some nut chiming in with "thanks Obama". They have no facts, they read it on some fishy conspiracy blog on the internet, so it's God's honest truth, confirmation bias in action. I am looking forward to the time when they all start saying "thanks Hillary" and talking about her lesbian, Muslim lover. At least it will be a change.

Seriously, thank God they put that woman in jail, now her people can do their jobs.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

LisaRose

Rightly so, many in America see the supreme court ruling as being an illegal ruling.

They are obviously wrong. The supreme court decides what is legal, that is their only function. That some people don't like what they decided is completely irrelevant. Some people didn't like school desegregation, women voting, equal pay for women, etc., so what? Who cares what a bunch of backwards Neanderthals think?

Once President Obama is out of office and is free to go back to his gay bath houses as private citizen

Oh, so the president is gay as well as a Muslim? Lol.

, a new president may force the supreme court stop making politically influenced decisions that have little constitutional basis.

That's hilarious, you obviously have zero understanding of how the government works. The president cannot force the supreme court to do anything.

No matter how hard the gays tried to reprogram humanity into accepting gay marriage, I believe that if straight people were honest with themselves and could vote their conscience, they would overrule the supreme court.

I am straight, honest and 100% support the rights of gays to get married.

You have absolutely no knowledge of how the supreme court works, do you? Nobody can overrule the supreme court. Supreme, get it?

You are a perfect example of the type of person who has a problem with gay marriage. You have no understanding of how the government works, no knowledge or understanding of this issue and you only see things from your own narrow perspective. What possible difference could it make to you that gay people can marry? Does it threaten your marriage or take away your rights? Gay people just want the same rights you have, to marry the person they love and have the legal protection of marriage as regards inheritance, property rights, child custody and hospital visitation. None of that threatens or harms you in any way, so why do you care?

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The Paranormal

by Peony in

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friends

i'm interested to know if anyone has been to see a medium/clairvoyant since leaving jw's.

i must admit now i can make my own choices i seem to have a fascination with it although haven't acted on it as a) am i just jumping into believing another load of rubbish?

and b) what if it really is the demons pretending to be loved ones!!

LisaRose

I did a tarot card reading just out of curiosity. She did get some things right, but it was nothing I would consider proof of anything supernatural. I think some people are just good at reading reactions and are very intuitive. I certainly would not plan my life around anything they say, but if it's just for fun, why not?

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Hello world !

by Mrs. Eden in

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well, here i am.. hello world, mrs. eden sending regards to everyone.

:).

my english is limited, so please go easy on me.. mrs. eden.

LisaRose

Welcome Mrs. Eden, glad you decided to join us.

Lisa 🌹

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Historical Meanings of Sheol & Hades

by Perry in

for those of you interested in getting to the bottom of the watchtower's teaching on sheol, hades, condition of the dead etc.

; this information is about as good as it gets.

the idea of consciousness after death was widely accepted from israel's earliest times, contrary to what the watchtower would have its members believe.. the lexicographical evidence is so clear that the great princeton scholar, b. b. warfield; stated that with modern hebrew scholars, there is no hesitation to allow with all heartiness that israel from the beginning of its recorded history cherished the most settled conviction of the persistence of the soul in life after death.

LisaRose

This is one area where the JWs actually made sense to me. I cannot reconcile a God of love torturing someone for eternity because they picked the wrong religion. I don't care what the bible says about it one way or the other, it doesn't make sense.

If a parent deliberately burns their child as punishment they considered criminals and are locked up, why is God given a pass for something a thousand times worse? It would be cruel and vindictive, especially when you consider that there are thousands of religions and your place of birth dictates which one you get to belong to. If God would do that he is not a loving heavenly father but a monster

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

LisaRose

I don't hate this woman, I totally get why she is doing what she is doing because as a JW I believed homosexuality was a sin, but I think she is very wrong to make this about her religion. It's not her job to decide who gets to be married, that is defined by law, she was elected to do her duties in accordance with the law, she is failing in her duties. If, for religious reasons, she didn't believe in divorce and remarriage (obviously not a problem for her, but some religious people do believe that) she would not be allowed to deny divorced people a marriage license, it's just as wrong to deny a marriage license to two gay people. Her choice is to carry out her duties, as defined by the law, or resign from her position. She is completely wrong to do neither.

I believe they will seek financial sanctions against her, at which point I hope she will resign her position or change her stance. As a last resort they could send her to jail, but I think they will try to avoid that, and I hope she sees reason.

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The personal cost of Great Power Politics

by fulltimestudent in

LisaRose

I saw the picture, it made me cry. I wonder what individuals can do to help ease this suffering? Is the red cross doing anything? It seems crazy that more isn't being done except to shut borders and trains, when these people wouldn't be coming if they had any options.