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  Nice little summary by Barbara Anderson re dear old Geoffrey GB and "presumptuousness"...

  by umbertoecho in

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  jw governing body claims to be the faithful slave.

  did you know how (in sworn testimony during the recent australian royal commission hearing) governing body member geoffrey jackson responded to the question, do you see yourselves as jehovahs spokespeople on earth?.

  jackson replied, that, i think, would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.. really?

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  He was right about one thing, it certainly would be presumptuous to pressume they were the only spokesperson for God, but that is indeed what they claim to be, as any rank and file JW would tell you. It's amazing that Jackson's nose didn't grow longer and longer as he was giving his testimony.
  
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  So true Stealth. In a time when good information is so readily available, people choose to believe that which confirms their prejudices. In most cases a few minutes of research would show them that the story they are forwarding has been debunked, but they prefer to live in ignorance. I don't get it. I was forwarded some nonsense about how the term "in God we trust" was removed from the dollar coin. People were outraged! They were told to refuse to accept these godless coins! Thirty seconds of research showed that for a short period, the term was moved to the edge of the coins, not removed, and that it was moved back to the face a year later, all this happened ten years before the email was sent to me. But people do not like to have facts get in the way of their righteous indignation, I was the bad guy for saying anything.

  Back to the gay marriage issue. What this woman doesn't seem to understand is that in her duties as an elected official, she is not representing herself. A judge may rule in favor of an organization she finds personally repugnant, but her job as a judge is to uphold the law, that's why the symbol for justice is blindfolded, because the law should be impartial. However she feels about Gay marriage, she swore to uphold the law and execute her duties, she doesn't seem to take that vow seriously. I can respect her right to believe what she wants about Gay marriage, I cannot respect her choice to refuse to carry out her job. She has a choice, to resign, she doesn't have a choice to choose what part of the law she chooses to uphold.

  Maybe a few days in a jail cell will give her time to reflect on her choices and either perform her duties or resign from her position.
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  feeling of hopelessness and fear

  by 060702015 in

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  do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

  do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

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  O6072015, having read your other threads, it appears to me you are suffering from depression. Please seek professional counseling and get some help for this, there are many things that can be done to help you. I don't think going back to the JWs is going to help you. It may seem like they are happy, but for many, that is an act they put on when they are at the Kingdom Hall, the reality of life at home is much different. Of course some people are happy as JWs, but I suspect they are people that would be happy anywhere, some of us just were not born with the right brain chemistry for that, in which case being a JW just makes you more miserable.

  If you want a religious experience there are many churches that can fill a spiritual need without the guilt and burdens of life as a Jehovah's Witness. I personally like the UCC (United Church of Christ) also called Congregational. Their motto is that "wherever you are in life's journey, you are welcome here" and they mean it. But before you do that you simply must address your depression. Please, please call a professional counselor or psychologist.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  I respect those who disagree with his politics, what I am talking about is those who seem to have a deep visceral hatred of him that causes them to blame him for everything and anything. The fact is the POTUS doesn't have that much power or control over everything that happens in Washington. And the belief that he is a Muslim, simply because he was born and lived ten years in a Muslim country is absurd. The gay bathhouse and murder conspiracy theories are beyond absurd. But you cant reason with people like that, they are going to believe what they believe.

  But this is a thread about Gay marriage, let's get back to that.
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  feeling of hopelessness and fear

  by 060702015 in

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  do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

  do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

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  No, no hopelessness and fear at all, why would I feel that? I'm loving life and having a great time.

  You must have been in a different congregation than me, I don't remember many of them being happy at all. One elder in the last congregation beat his wife and killed himself when his children took her away from him in fear for her life. Yeah, don't remember the happy.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  I don't know what it is about Obama that makes certain people froth at the mouth. It's just a never ending circus of fools, you cant read any message board about anything without some nut chiming in with "thanks Obama". They have no facts, they read it on some fishy conspiracy blog on the internet, so it's God's honest truth, confirmation bias in action. I am looking forward to the time when they all start saying "thanks Hillary" and talking about her lesbian, Muslim lover. At least it will be a change.

  Seriously, thank God they put that woman in jail, now her people can do their jobs.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Rightly so, many in America see the supreme court ruling as being an illegal ruling.
  

  They are obviously wrong. The supreme court decides what is legal, that is their only function. That some people don't like what they decided is completely irrelevant. Some people didn't like school desegregation, women voting, equal pay for women, etc., so what? Who cares what a bunch of backwards Neanderthals think?

  Once President Obama is out of office and is free to go back to his gay bath houses as private citizen

  Oh, so the president is gay as well as a Muslim? Lol.

  , a new president may force the supreme court stop making politically influenced decisions that have little constitutional basis.

  That's hilarious, you obviously have zero understanding of how the government works. The president cannot force the supreme court to do anything.

  No matter how hard the gays tried to reprogram humanity into accepting gay marriage, I believe that if straight people were honest with themselves and could vote their conscience, they would overrule the supreme court.

  I am straight, honest and 100% support the rights of gays to get married.

  You have absolutely no knowledge of how the supreme court works, do you? Nobody can overrule the supreme court. Supreme, get it?

  You are a perfect example of the type of person who has a problem with gay marriage. You have no understanding of how the government works, no knowledge or understanding of this issue and you only see things from your own narrow perspective. What possible difference could it make to you that gay people can marry? Does it threaten your marriage or take away your rights? Gay people just want the same rights you have, to marry the person they love and have the legal protection of marriage as regards inheritance, property rights, child custody and hospital visitation. None of that threatens or harms you in any way, so why do you care?
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  The Paranormal

  by Peony in

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  i'm interested to know if anyone has been to see a medium/clairvoyant since leaving jw's.

  i must admit now i can make my own choices i seem to have a fascination with it although haven't acted on it as a) am i just jumping into believing another load of rubbish?

  and b) what if it really is the demons pretending to be loved ones!!

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  I did a tarot card reading just out of curiosity. She did get some things right, but it was nothing I would consider proof of anything supernatural. I think some people are just good at reading reactions and are very intuitive. I certainly would not plan my life around anything they say, but if it's just for fun, why not?
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  Hello world !

  by Mrs. Eden in

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  well, here i am.. hello world, mrs. eden sending regards to everyone.

  :).

  my english is limited, so please go easy on me.. mrs. eden.

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  LisaRose

  Welcome Mrs. Eden, glad you decided to join us.

  Lisa 🌹
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  Historical Meanings of Sheol & Hades

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you interested in getting to the bottom of the watchtower's teaching on sheol, hades, condition of the dead etc.

  ; this information is about as good as it gets.

  the idea of consciousness after death was widely accepted from israel's earliest times, contrary to what the watchtower would have its members believe.. the lexicographical evidence is so clear that the great princeton scholar, b. b. warfield; stated that with modern hebrew scholars, there is no hesitation to allow with all heartiness that israel from the beginning of its recorded history cherished the most settled conviction of the persistence of the soul in life after death.

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  This is one area where the JWs actually made sense to me. I cannot reconcile a God of love torturing someone for eternity because they picked the wrong religion. I don't care what the bible says about it one way or the other, it doesn't make sense.

  If a parent deliberately burns their child as punishment they considered criminals and are locked up, why is God given a pass for something a thousand times worse? It would be cruel and vindictive, especially when you consider that there are thousands of religions and your place of birth dictates which one you get to belong to. If God would do that he is not a loving heavenly father but a monster