Posts by LisaRose

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California Electrician Dies After Falling 53 Stories...Possible JW and Suicide?

by JW GoneBad in

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-construction-worker-falls-from-l-a-high-rise-hits-cars-dies-20160317-story.html.

social media is saying that this individual was a jehovah's witness.

can someone from the southern california area confirm this.

JW Videos

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

my belief is that the jw organization is moving towards video teaching.

at the last convention a mini jesus movie was created.

today watching the jw video on 'older ones' is the famous widow in the temple scene with the same actor for jesus.. are they slowly and carefully making a jesus movie?.

I think you are right. I have been out a long time but from what I read here it may be due to the generally poor quality of elders that are becoming the norm. As the internet has become common, possibly many of the better educated JWs are waking up and leaving? At the same time they seem to be having a harder time motivating young men to reach out to be elders. Possibly with wages being not as good as they used to be, even good elders are having to work more to pay the bills so they might not have as much time to prepare talks. Many have said that the overall quality of the meetings are starting to deteriorate.

Maybe they think videos will be more effective in motivating people and making sure they get their message across. If you have a poor speaker you are more likely to not pay attention, while a video has more impact.

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JW related collective nouns

by Simon in

english is a great language, especially when it comes to collective nouns.

a "murder" of crows is just fantastic as is a "mob" of meerkats.

a "colony" of ants, a "pride" of lions.

LisaRose

A smug of pioneers

An arrogance of elders

A haughty of elderesses

A gossip of publishers

A humble of single sisters

A superciliouous of circuit overseers

A depression of disfellowshipped

A self importance of governing body members.

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Talking to a wall

by ivanatahan in

jw
friends

why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

LisaRose

You will never win an argument with a cult member because to admit you were right on any point will be to admit they are wrong in everything, their entire belief system and way of life. The stakes are just way too high, so she will never give you any ground.

Just a suggestion, If you get a chance to talk to her again you migh try first establishing some raphor on something you know to be an issue for her, then asking questions designed to get her to open up about her issues or doubts.

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Never Allowed to be Myself

by NeverAllowestobeMyself in

so my handle has a typo, it is supposed to be never allowed to be myself but i'm okay with that because it is kind of symbolic of my situation.

as a born-in i have always had expectations forced on me, this is what you are to think, feel and do as a jehovah's witness.

my earliest memories involve being upset that i would die at armageddon because i was bad.

LisaRose

Good for you for knowing that you must learn how to be yourself. I am sure many people go through life never knowing who they are or what they want in life, they have so buried their true nature they don't even know it exists. It's not an easy path if you have been doing only what others expect of you, but it can be done if you are willing to put in the time and effort and the rewards are great.

I highly recommend two things for excavating your authentic self, meditation and journaling. Writing three pages in a journal every day is useful to start picking up the threads. No filters, do not edit, just write down any thing that comes to you, what is important is that you write, not what you write. You can burn the paper when you are done if you feel someone finding it might be a problem, it's the exercise of writing that is important. You are looking for some common threads, bits and pieces of your real self that will poke through here and there. Eventually you will start to see a pattern, focus on that and work with it.

Meditation has proven benefits, it's known to reduce blood pressure and stress and relieve depression. It takes only a few minutes a day, and is not hard. It does take practice, so keep at it every day.

At first it will be difficult, you will experience difficult emotions and it will not be easy, but keep at it and it will get easier with time.

Lisa 🌹

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

LisaRose

My mum freaks out, starts screaming and looking at me like I’m Satan’s spawn and runs down stairs – screaming all the way – and locks herself in the car. I haven’t seen her since. It’s been six months.

I know this is tragic, am I am sure it was horrible at the time, but this just kind of made me laugh, your parents are very, very strange. It would almost be impossible for someone who is not a JW to believe people actually act this way. Sadly we all know how this belief system warps people's thinking. Everything is black and white, life and death.

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My life as a fundamentalist

by joey jojo in

as a born-in jw, i never considered myself to be a fundamentalist.

i always thought we were enlightened, progressive and not 'stuck in darkness' like all the other religions.. i was totally wrong.. as far as fundamentalists go, jw's are probably right up there amongst the front-runners.

no, they do not stone people to death or go on religion-fuelled violent rampages but that's not what i'm talking about.

LisaRose

I think you should be proud of yourself. Instead of continuing to live in ignorance you had the courage to examine your beliefs and adjust your thinking when you realized you were wrong. This puts you in the minority of mankind, in my opinion. So many people pick a position and then defend it no matter what facts are available. It's not just the JWs or fundamentalists, it's people on both sides of the political spectrum. So much of the current gridlock in politics is because people cannot look / at the facts without prejudice, they just keep insisting they are right and anyone who believes different is an idiot.

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Self-Driving vehicles and delivery robots - why?

by FadeToBlack in

i saw a 'news' article today about pizza hut (i think) delivering pizzas via a robotic vehicle in nz.

also another article headline saying it is not a question of if, but when.

my immediate thought was, why?

LisaRose

Self driving cars will be safer, that's a huge reason to me, lives will be saved. I don't like driving and will get one as soon as I can afford it. Especially when I am older it will be a huge advantage, think of all the older folks that can't drive or shouldn't be. Think of all the drunk driving accidents that can be prevented. If enough cars are self driving it will reduce congestion and make commutes easier. It will also save energy as self driving cars are more fuel efficient.

Yes, Uber drivers will lose their jobs, just like there are no longer people making buggy whips. Some jobs are lost, some are created and overall productivity improves with every advance in technology, it's a fact of life.

People will soon be wondering how they ever got along without them.

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Too many partakers in the org? Help is on the way!

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

is someone in your congregation confused?

coming soon to the local congregations:.

anointification neutralizer100 suppositories.

LisaRose

Coming soon, Apostate Away, a mix of specializated medications for those who are developing critical thinking skills and in danger of thinking the Watchtower could ever be wrong.

Directions Take two capsules of our cognitive dissonance pills in the morning and repeat to yourself "the Watchtower is never wrong" ten times. At night take our patented "Fear obligation and guilt (FOG) capsules" and one Amnesia pill. In morning you will be filled with fear of dying at Armageddon and will have forgotten all your doubts! Guaranteed to work or your money back! (Not really, obedient brothers would never admit we were wrong or ask for their money back)

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Prescription Drugs and the Fruitage of the Spirit?

by Luther bertrand in

does anyone have a meaningful response to the following question/points: the fruitage of the spirit found at gal.

5:22: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, mildness, kindness.

goodness, faith and self-control, in many way for many people can be increased through the use of anti-anxiety, anti-depressants, and a host of other pharma's.

LisaRose

I don't think I buy the premise that you can express the fruitage of the spirit by taking drugs, it's far more complicated than that. If someone has a deficiency in brain chemistry, then possibly certain drugs can help them be more normal and then express love, joy, peace, etc., but they have to be capable of feeling such emotions in the first place. If they have normal brain chemistry then the drugs will not do anything for them, and if they are a rotten person with bad brain chemistry, then all the drugs in the world will not make them loving.