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  JWs not so new format for getting across their message . . .

  by Coded Logic in

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  god is going to fix everything.

  you would just not believe how great he is going to make it.

  it's going to be the greatest.

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  LisaRose

  It's HUGE!
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

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  2. bible

  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  ook at me, sitting here, wondering why I notice the world through eyes that could not see true evil. And a heart that was numb to feelings, due to the fact that the feelings came from evil, unnatural. Jehovah God is incapable of wickedness, whenever we look to see good will in the world - that is Jehovah. When we look and see bad, it is Satan, Devil, One who cannot be named.

  If you believe in God, then you believe in a being that sat idly by while millions of human beings have been systematically cheated, stolen from, deprived of food, tortured, murdered and raped throughout the history of man. If there are such things as invisible beings, then he would be the worst of them, because he created the world where it happened and then allowed it, over and over, for some purpose that he hasn't fully explained and that could never justify the evil he has allowed. So many people have suffered, nothing can take that away.

  But of course there is no evidence that such beings exist. Despite thirty years of earnest prayer to Jehovah, he never once responded, so I can only conclude that he doesn't exist. Despite being told that Satan was always looking to get me I saw no evidence of him either. Despite being told the bible is the word of God I found it to be confusing, full of errors and obviously written by primitive, petty and imperfect men. It's stories are very obviously fairy tales, told by the camp fire for centuries before being written down, and not even original. A talking snake? A global flood? Preposterous and easily disproved by science. It has some generic wisdom here and there, but nothing that isn't obvious to any thinking person. It also dictates that me, as a woman, am forever subservient to men, unfit for any position of responsibility, a possession. No thank you.

  My happiness and freedom began the day I realized that God doesn't exist. I no longer had to listen to a bunch of self appointed men tell me what to think, do and say. It was like I was in prison and suddenly the door popped open and I could walk in the sun. The sixteen years since that day have been the happiest of my life. I no longer fear God's wrath or Armageddon. I no longer have to listen to a bunch of old farts in Brooklyn who presume to speak for God and who obsess over tight pants. I no longer have to live with guilt, being constantly told that I wasn't doing enough. My time is not enslaved to a cult, it is my own. I can't imagine spending most of my free time sitting in the kingdom hall being bored silly and I can't even imagine why any God would want me to.

  FREEDOM!

  
  
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  For Dog Lovers-- Meet Stanley!

  by Sail Away in

  1. social
  2. humour

  have you ever had a dog that was dumber than a box of rocks?

  i have; his name was dave matthews.

  we loved him anyway.

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  He's adorable! I used to have a German Shepard/husky/Golden mix who wasn't exactly the sharpest pencil in the box either, but she had a heart of gold was would defend you to the death. It's been ten years and I still miss that mutt.
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  Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

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  when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

  it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

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  Yeah, If she wore that to the KH she would get counseled on her "immodest attire" for sure. Also for having spent time learning to play the violin and for running through the fields when she could be standing by a literature cart doing nothing.
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  Why are some that post here JW apologists?

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.

  those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.

  those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.

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  Reasons people defend the Watchtower

  1) They dont understand cult mind control and haven't been away long enough for it to wear off.

  2)They are having a hard time admitting they were completely wrong about choosing it as a religion in the first place.

  3) They like to take the contrarian argument in a discussion.

  4) They haven't really adopted a new belief system and it feels uncomfortable having no belief system.

  In all honesty it took me years after I left before I figured out that it was a cult and was finally able to junk all the teachings. I realized they weren't god's spokesperson, but I still thought they got some things right, like trinity and hell fire.
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  Anyone know how Mouthy (Grace) is?

  by cantleave in

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  2. friends

  i don't come on here as often as i used to, but i notice mouthy doesn't post any more.

  is she ok?.

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  LisaRose

  The last I heard was that she is struggling with her health, which is understandable considering her a age. She does still post once in a great while, but I haven't seen anything lately.
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  What Religious Trajectory Are The JWs Following?

  by millie210 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading another thread and the comments got me thinking.... https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5656910430732288/pictures-tell-thousand-words.

  comments such as oldskools: more like digital colonialism channeled through one of the weaker and less important institutions western society has to offer.. .

  some have compared the orgs future path to the world wide church of gods.

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  LisaRose

  I see two possible futures for any small cult like religion like the JWs. . Either they move away from the doomsday ideology and become more mainstream in order to grow or they become even more cult like and crazy, driving away people who cannot tolerate the more negative aspects.

  It appears to me that the GB is moving towards becoming even more cult like. They could have dropped the generation teaching and stopped insisting Armageddon is happening any day but they did not. They could have dropped the shunning, but they have not. They could have quietly dropped the ban on blood transfusions but they have not. They attempt to appear more mainstream by the website and videos, but the content of the videos is anything but mainstream.

  Other things that indicate they are moving towards tighter control and more cult like behavior.

  Obsession with tight pants and the fear of homosexuals

  Continuing to encourage, even demand baptism of minors

  Bunker mentality (Videos of people hiding in basements during the great tribulation)

  Elevating the governing body to godlike status

  Selling off property and drastic cost cutting

  I think they will soon be facing a drop in membership. This will be hard to stop given that they don't appear willing to compromise or drop unsustainable policies, instead focusing on fear and control.
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  Scary Dream

  by freemamaof3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.

  i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .

  ok so last night i had the scariest dream.

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  LisaRose

  I always had weird dreams when pregnant, I think that's normal.

  I think it's also normal to have some fears about Armageddon, even when you know, at least intellectually, that it's not really true. Cult Mind Control doesn't go away just because you realize it's all a lie, that's why it's so hard to overcome. I am sure there are a lot of people that are fed up with religion but are still in because they think "what if it is true?" That little bit of doubt keeps them stuck, because people tend to fear a negative outcome more than they want a better life. You have gotten past that, but may still have some tiny doubt in one corner of your mind. It will eventually go away as time goes on.
  
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  Gorby wishes you a happy convention! (picture)

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  gorby has been offline from jwd for some weeks, and it made my situation not better, have had some serious problems with the fading, much pressure, i have nothing new to say, it must be very similar to the situation of many faders here.. so, i had so much pressure, that we have had to change our holiday booking so we are able to visit the convention, due to family reasons, you all know what i mean.. please wish me (and us) much luck for this summer.

  it is not my best summer season in life.. this is how i feel:.

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  LisaRose

  I feel for anyone that has to attend the convention. To give you all something to do I have prepared a Convention Buzz Word Bingo game for you. Just listen for the JW buzzword, check off the box and try to get five in a row.

  https://bingobaker.com/view/735674

  
  

  This bingo card has the words: Undeserved Kindness, Jehovah's Chariot, The Last Days, Self Sacrificing Spirit, The Great Tribulation, Faithful and Discrete Slave, Spiritual Paradise, System Of Things, Worldwide Work, Dis- fellowship, Wait on Jehovah, Satan The Devil, Bad Association, Headship, Bible Trained Conscience, Reaching Out, The Light is Getting Brighter, Independent Thinking, Living Provision, Mental Regulating, Unconditional Love, Weak in The Truth, Apostate, Pioneer
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  The bigger picture

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been awake now for a good while.

  about a year.

  in that year i've done a lot of soul searching and thinking about god and religion etc.... as i'm sure most all of us have who've left this cult.

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  LisaRose

  So true. This moment in time, right now, is all you have, all you've ever had, all you will have. Living in the moment and making the most of it is the only route to happiness.