I think it's possible Trump will start his own party. He has has been pretty soundly rejected by main stream republicans, but the fame and adulation is a drug he will not willingly give up.
He will be a problem for republicans for years to come.
... a riot, i predict a riot !
(great song).
the republican party allowed themselves to be taken over.
I think it's possible Trump will start his own party. He has has been pretty soundly rejected by main stream republicans, but the fame and adulation is a drug he will not willingly give up.
He will be a problem for republicans for years to come.
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
Hillary, on the other hand, will further policies that go contrary what I believe are good for the country, and instead will make it continue down a long-term path that I believe is no good. So, what do I do?
I get what you are saying.While I dont like Hil, her politics are fairly close to mine. But if you are concerned about her policies, do you even know what Trumps policies would be as president? He is not a true conservative, so who knows who he would appoint as supreme court justice? He has made it clear that getting rid of illegal immigrants is his priority, but how will he do that when he doesnt even work well with his own party, much less the democrats.
Trump will not be a good president for anyone no matter what your politics are.
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
They cannot force Trump to step down, he would have to recognize that it would be in the best interest of the republican party and good luck with that, he has never had any loyalty or connection to the republican party, nor would never admit he did anything wrong or could not win, his ego would not allow it.
Granted, Pence did a credible job in the debates, but at the same time he doesn't believe in evolution as "it's just a theory", not someone I want leading the country.
i think all of us on this forum would like to welcome all the newbies that have joined in the last six months or so ,if i`m not mistaken there seems to be an influx lately.. elders , ms ,and sisters.
speak up and make a comment , are you happy you came here ?.
we`d love to here from you.. smiddy.
Welcome all you new ones. I would love to hear your stories if you haven't already introduced yourself in a thread yet, I am always interested in how people woke up.
Lisa 🌹
yes my holy anionted mom who has cancer is concerned that the loving god jehovah may ask her in heaven to destroy here non believer family including her 5 year old grandchild during armagedon....how messed up are these crazy people!!?
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Just hope she doesn't decide to start in on her work early.
this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.
i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.
i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5729160790016000/guide-helping-other-break-free
I put some tips together of what worked for other to help their family break free, hope it helps
this is the one thing that i have struggled with since leaving the organization.
i recognize the need and value of belonging somewhere, being a part of something, showing up weekly to a community where me and my husband and children are loved and utilized and incorporated and cared for.
a place where are my kids qualities are nurtured and encouraged , and then reigned in and developed when needed.
You might try United Church of Christ (The "united" part is very important, the other Church of Christ is horrible). They are very welcoming and have no doctrine. I thought of attending for the same reasons as you, even though I am an atheist. They didn't have a problem with my atheism, it's a kind of go with the flow type of thing. The have nice nice music and snacks and do a lot of charitable works.
My experience is that eventually you do develop a community of friends of various kinds, it's just not one big group. It takes time, so it's not going to happen overnight, but it does happen.
i decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.
there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.
i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.
Welcome, glad you found us. I have been out for quite a while and don't think the organization is at all like the one I left. Not that they didn't always have issues, but it seems they lost what little good there was in it.
Lisa 🌹
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
It's just really hard to imagine that a person could live their life and have no regard for their responsibilities to respect, trust, and serve God.
How can I possibly respect something that I don't believe exists? Am I supposed to pretend I do to make you feel better? That seems silly to me.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
So you're okay with people disrespecting other people's belief just because they don't believe the same thing
On a discussion forum about religious beliefs, yes. I belief people should be respected, but not beliefs. If I met you at a party I wouldn't say anything, because I believe people have a right to believe what they want. But you came to a discussion forum and chose to discuss your beliefs, and you can't expect people to say they believe in something when they don't. For example, someone could say they believe the moon is made of green cheese. I am not going to respect that, because it's silly.
resort to disrespecting what I believe in by mocking and treating God like trash all because of your own lack of faith which is not a bad thing, by the way, you just lack it.
They are just making a point, or do you not get that? If God exists, he's a big fella and not going to be hurt by some random people discussing him on a forum. It's only you that is hurt and it's hard to feel too sorry for you because you chose to stay here and basically make the same argument for 27 pages. Why would you think anyone is going to change their mind at this point? Why should we respect a being that we don't believe in? If someone believes in the tooth fairy and demands you give her respect and acknowledge she is all mighty, would you? Would it change because they stomped their feet and whined and made threats and said they would pop their daughter in the mouth for saying the tooth fairy isn't the greatest? No? Why not, don't you respect their beliefs? That is how your beliefs seem to us.
Most of us here did at one time believe in God. We thought about it quite a lot. We researched and thought and reasoned and came to the conclusion that he simply didn't exist. I had no agenda, I don't hate God, I am not against the idea of him, I just don't believe, and I am not going to start believing because you come here whining and making threats and demanding I respect what I believe to be a figment of your imagination. It's certainly nothing personal, so why are you getting upset? A lot of people in the world believe something different than you, that's life.