I went through this with my Mom before she died. She had very mixed feelings, loved her kids but felt guilty about the DF ones. So, hot and cold, see 'em then not. Drove my Sister crazy. I went out toward the end of her life. We both went to see her as I knew she was dying. I got a letter when I got back saying "I really enjoyed your visit, but I'm afraid I can't talk to you anymore". So I take her at her word, then I head second hand that "Why does't LIsa call?". Crazy making.
LisaRose
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I need some friendly support...
by LuciousJ inso, we left the org.
back in december.
i went & visited my mother in february & shared with her some of the research i had found.
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Are You Afraid That Armageddon Is Going To Come Since Leaving "The Truth"?
by minimus ini'm not but i bet that there are some that quiety worry about it.....what about you?
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LisaRose
I decided when I left that if God was going to judge and destroy me for choosing a good life, happiness and contentment over a lifetime of misery then so be it. I can't beive any loving God woud do that, and I don't worry about it at all.
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Last night She told me size DID matter.......
by AK - Jeff in.
so i decided to buy the correct shoe.. bet you thought this was about something else, huh?.
too damn early in the morning -jus' messin' wicha.. jeff
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LisaRose
As long as we are on weird topics I had to share this story. Last night I went to a concert. Went to the ladies room and there were 2 stalls with doors, 1 without. I decided to wait for one with a door. An old lady came is and said, "Oh what the heck, I'm just going to use this one, you've all see what I have before anyway. I call mine 'Precious'. My husband calls his 'Winston'". I laughed all the way back to the concert.
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Why is the Victim Always Wrong?
by Warlock ini lurked here for about 6 or 7 months, before i started posting.. i have read experience after experience in which the victim of gossip, slander, abuse in the congregation is the one who is made to feel like they are the ones who need to apologize, when they are the ones that need the apology from the perpetrators of the injustice.. .
one theme that continues to repeat itself in the congregation is this: the victim is always wrong and the victimizer is always right.
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LisaRose
It's cognitive dissonance. Elders do not want to believe that another elder or 'spritually strong' person would do something wrong. It's more comfortable for them to believe the victim to have done something wrong as the victim is usually considered the 'spritually weak' one. It's part of maintaining the fiction that everything is perfect in 'God's orgainzation', and that those who are regular in attendance and service would never do anything wrong. Even when the Victim is NOT considered spiritually weak, the fact that they brought up the issue makes them uncomfortable (doesn't jibe with beliefs, things like that don't happen in God's organization), so it's easier to blame the victim than confront the facts. Anyway that's my take on it.
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Left behind...or forgotten?
by lisavegas420 ini'm nearly 45 years old, an entirely different person than i was when i was df'd at 25 years of age.
i haven't had a phone call, no letters, no jw visits.
my parents don't call, nor my siblings.
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LisaRose
Lisa, that is extremely sad. Even understanding what the WT teaches, I would think your family would at lease keep some minimal contact. Are they cold or what??? That must hurt.
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Your Spirit Animal
by frankiespeakin inwhat do you know about your spirit animal?
any experiences?
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LisaRose
By beloved dog Allie died 2 years ago. She was a large (95 lbs) Husky, Shepard, Golden mix and lived to be 14. The next day I saw a butterfly pin and it made me think of her so I bought it in her memory. I felt she had a Butterfly sprit and now she was as free as a butterfly, released from her physical problems. The next day I looked out the window and way a huge yellow butterfly go by. I couldn't help but think - Oh, there goes Allie. My hubbie thought I was nuts, but the next day he called me from work and said a huge yellow butterfly kept dive bombing him. So whenever I see a yellow butterfly it makes me smile and think of Allie. This year hubbie reported that again a large yellow butterfly was following him all day. I checked and sure enough, it was exactly 2 years to the day that she had died. Call me crazy.
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Toilets and gender - very light hearted discussion
by Qcmbr inat work we have four toilets per floor of which two are male and two female - we have about a 10 - 1 balance of men to women and so we got to bitching about how unfair it is that they (the ladies) get two toilets while we have to hike around looking for an available stall.
these toilets are single occupant rooms (as a toilet prude these are my favourite toilets of all time!
- i can't do 2's in public except in dire emergencies) but we got to talking about some of the other offices where the toilets are larger etc.. and several people are in there at one time.
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LisaRose
My feeling is that guys (gay or straight) should use the men's room. I don't see what thier sexual orientation has to do with is. If a guy walked into a ladies room I was in, I wouldn't necessarily know if he was gay, so it would make me nervous. For all I know he could just be a pervert who likes to look under the bathroom stalls. The real conundrum is when the guy is a cross-dresser. We had one at work who came dressed as a woman for Holloween every year. He pretty much looked like a woman. I'm pretty much live and let live, but the fake nipple show through I thought was a bit much in work environment. So I imagine it freaked out a few guys when he went to the men's room. On the other hand I wouldn't have wanted him in my bathroom as he a a reputation for being handsy with women.
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letter about relying on bookstudy
by Kaytam inbeen out for a while and still a little confused.
i was just told that a letter was read at this week's service meeting saying that witnesses should be prepared to rely on their bookstudy groups.
natural disasters were mentioned and i guess some folks are feeling that this is due to approaching persecution and banning.
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LisaRose
My Mom once told me that 'so and so' said the end is going to be really soon, and he must know, as he is an Elder!! Like he has some special, secret knowledge that she wasn't privy to. I was still 'in' at the time but I still thought that was silliest thing I had ever heard. When she first became a Witness she said my niece who was a baby at the time, would never go to kindergarten in this system. Well, she's like 35 now. My Mom passed away in 2002, still waiting.....
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Was there anyone in your congregation that you couldn't get to like?
by JH ini won't use the word "hate", but were there some in your congregation that you just couldn't get along with?.
i recall a brother in my congregation, he was single about 50 years old, and he never smiled, and seemed very rigid and he loved to criticize and say the opposite of everything i would say, when we talked together.. i went to the mall a few weeks ago, and came face to face with him, and he totally ignored me.
so, then i thought to myself, that maybe he is dfd.
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LisaRose
There was this old elder at a hall I went to. He always gave me the creeps. Wouldn't give me the time of day but always gave me the 'stink eye'. Very judgemental and critical. His wife aways sat there like a little mouse, never said a word to anybody. Turned out he was abusing her. Her health was failing and their kids made her leave him as they felt her life was in danger. He ended up killing himself. Only time I ever heard of a suicide that I didn't feel bad about it.
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Garage Sales
by mrsjones5 inwent to a few yesterday.
it was hot as hell but i did find a few things.
about 4 pairs of jeans for my daughter (they fit thank god), a new gap sweater for my daughter (it still had the tag on it), an ice cream maker for 5 bucks, and a few baby toys for the baby that i'm now babysitting.. it was a good haul.
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LisaRose
I have an antique and vintage business and get some of my treasures at garage and estate sales. It's a lot of fun and I also find great things for myself since I go to so many. I get upscale things that I couldn't afford or want to buy new. I have a good friend who also has a business (we are in the same co-op mall), so we often go together. It just amazes me that people buy so much stuff, then give it away at garage sales. Some of it never used or worn as it still has the price tags. My best deal lately was a jacket from Chico's, like new condition, perfect style for me. Cost at least $150 new, got it for $2.00. I get more compliments on that jacket than anything I bought new.