Christ Alone, I would like to praise you for doing a good job on this thread and others. Your posts are always well thought out and balanced. I am sorry your parents can't appreciate you now because they are still brainwashed, hopefully some day they will come around, but if not, you know you did the right thing in leaving.
LisaRose
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The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology
by Christ Alone ini posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.
here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.
in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.
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Thinking of becoming a JW.
by Kate82 inhi,.
i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.
also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.
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LisaRose
I was lurking around Topix when the subject of JWN came up. A cetain poster started a rant about JWN and Simon calling him several nasty names. Some one posted "kicked you out did he?", someone else posted "yes, twice". I had to laugh. Simon does a very good job of keeping this forum a great place to be. If you don't think he is doing a good job moderating, spend a little time on Topix, you will see what happens when the inmates run the the asylum.
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Forget the Watchtower,...we are celebrating Christmas
by trailerfitter inlast year i banned a bible class from my house on christmas eve because i took the impression they were coming to gloat over taking my wife away with them.
i celebrated the seasons festivities with my son.
this year, now i am seperated from her i will be having my son around to celebrate the festivities, i will be seeing him take part in the school nativity play (even if i am and atheist).
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LisaRose
One of the nice things about leaving the JWs is that you can pick and choose how you want to celebrate, or even if you want to. Want to just go the company party and call it good? Do that. Want to go all out and rival Martha Stewart, do that. No traditions but what you choose to do. Having made fun of the frantic shoppers careening around the mall parking lots, I knew I didnt want to do that (I hate malls any way). I choose to buy simple gifts, and either shop earlier in the year or on line. But I love to decorate, so I do that. And I love to bake, so lots of cookies. So Christmas can be whatever you want it to be.
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hobbies/ collectors
by fakesmile inwhat do you do for fun?
i like r/c planes.
i have friends who collect everything from hot wheels to comics to coins.
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LisaRose
Mrs. Jones, I have 2 vintage singers. They are the best. One broke and they cant get the parts anymore, so I bought the second hoping to canibalize it for parts. You cant beat a vintage singer.
I buy furniture and paint and fix. Also sewing, antiques, a lttle woodworking, collage, paper crafts, a little bit of everything. I love vintage style. It's sort of a hobby and business in one. I make a little money but I do it mostly for fun.
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Elders, Ministerial Servants & Pioneers That Should Not Have Been Appointed or Should Not Have Remained In Their Positions
by minimus inwere there a lot of elders, ms's and pioneers that should not have had those titles?.
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LisaRose
I am beginning to understand why it takes 6,500 hours for every convert. Most of the hours are imaginary.
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A problem with my daughter
by DATA-DOG inshould i try to dissuade my daughter from being baptized?
she doesn't seem to be in hurry.
all her " friends " are already baptized, some since early childhood which is ridiculous in my opinion.
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LisaRose
I don't think you need to make a big deal of it at this point. As time goes on and you become sure of your feelings about the Watchtower, you can discuss it as it comes up. Don't lay it all out at once, she might just get defensive, and not listen to you. It's more effective to ask leading questions "what do you think is a good reason to get baptized?" "Why do you think your friends are getting baptized so young?". That way you can respond appropriately at whatever stage she is in at the moment. Soon she will be seeing her fiends who are baptized, run into trouble, getting reproved or disfellowshipped, and that could be another opportunity to lead a discussion.
Discuss college plans at another time, don't tie college in with not getting baptized, or she may feel she has to choose between the two. Look for an appropriate moment to ask her what she hopes to do, her interests and dreams. That could help her to start thinking about the future in non JW doom and gloom terms. Just help her expand her horizons a little, plant some seeds of thought. Take her to a concert or play at a nearby college, let her get a glimpse of college life. You cannot do what you cannot imagine!
Take care, I hope things turn out well for you all.
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I hope you die...
by WatchTowerofBabel ini'm curious.
(true in both senses).
when i was a child i used to hope celebrities i liked (or wanted to boink) died before armageddon.
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LisaRose
My mom once said it was a shame her grandson and his wife were expecting another child, because it would just die at Armageddon. I was still in, but I was horrified, I guess at that point I no longer felt that would really happen. It wad one of the more cruel and stupid she ever said. It was her own great grandchild, and she was sorry it was going to be born? Sick, twisted, and crazy thinking.
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S.F. Giants vs. Detroit Tigers in World Series ! Who Do You Pick to Win ?
by flipper ini'm flyin' high right about now !
my san francisco giants came back beat cincinnati 3 games to 2 after being down 2-0 and tonight they came back and beat st. louis 4 games to 3 after being down 3-1 !
and we had tornados in northern california in a powerful storm while this was going down tonight !
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LisaRose
I have to go for the home team and I live in the bay area, GIANTS!!!
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The same month I lost my faith in God was when I was appointed an elder
by Most Noble inmy appointment came just when i started having mixed feelings about the existence of god and wt's legitimacy.
isn't it ironic?.
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LisaRose
I think it is a good idea to take what anyone says here with a grain of salt, at least until you find out more about the them and especially if the poster's claims are as exaggerated as these are. I have to keep reminding myself that I got into this religion in the first place because I was a little gullible and I try not to repeat my mistakes. I would love it if it were true, but usually if something sounds too good to be true....well, you know.
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Hello everyone
by Strawberryfieldsforever ini have been trying to get on with my life without jehovah's witnesses and my mom.
just to let you know briefly about me......i was pretty much raised a jw by my mom.
she never let me know my dad because he was "worldly" and was going to die soon.
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LisaRose
What you have to realize is that most JWs are conflicted about shunning. Your mom does love you (as best she can) but the brainwashing makes her feel she must shun you. She does want to see you, but feels guilty about it. She probably felt she had a legitimate reason to help out when your dad died, so she could see you without feeling guilty, which I'm sure she wants to do. Now that the crisis is past, she is back to the usual shun. That is the stupidity that is the whole JW shunning policy. The WTBTS has kind of gone back and forth with their views in how mean they expect their members to be, although lately it seems they have gotten tougher, emailing is even out now. So it seems how each JWs shuns depends on so many factors it's impossible to keep track.
My sister took to shunning me, but I called to get my brothers phone number and we ended up talking for a long time. Then she sent me an email saying she could talk to me, maybe "once in a while". I decided enough is enough, I won't talk to her again. Its crazy making, not know how stupid she wants to be from day to day. I'm not going to beg for crumbs, it's easier to just cut off all contact on my end. I have decided enough is enough I won't even go to her funeral,if it comes to that. I'm not angry, but enough is enough.