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  Helen Keller is not a hero

  by StopTheTears in

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  few realize just how wicked some of the most revered people in history were.

  helen keeler (1880 to 1968) was a wolf in sheep's clothing, no hero.

  keller was a communist.

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  LisaRose

  Helen Keller was a socialist, not a communist. She was passionate about workers rights because she was shocked to learn many people became blind due to industrial and work conditions and lack of safety and regulations at the time. She was not alone in her views, many people were interested in workers rights at the time. On paper, socialism seemed like a good thing, history had yet to prove that it didn't work and would result in people losing their individual rights. It's ridiculous to judge people of a hundred years ago by our standards today and what we know now. J. Edgar Hoover was a paranoid nut case, having him keep a file on you meant nothing.

  The Satan worshiping angle is pure nonsense, not only untrue, but silly. Please do more research before posting fake internet stories.
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  Child Sex Abuse in The Jesus people cult

  by LisaRose in

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  interesting article about a small religious cult in chicago.

  a man who grew up in the cult and suffered abuse set about to make a documentary about the religion.

  he didn't set out to make it about sex abuse, but in interviewing people he found out a lot of people had been molested as well.

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  Interesting article about a small religious cult in Chicago. A man who grew up in the cult and suffered abuse set about to make a documentary about the religion. He didn't set out to make it about sex abuse, but in interviewing people he found out a lot of people had been molested as well. He was isolated and shunned for making an accusation.

  Interesting in the comments section some people are still trying to minimize the abuse and pretend he was exaggerating. It seems to be like the JWs, if it didn't happen to you, it couldn't have happened to anyone else.

  http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessehyde/bringing-down-americas-happiest-christian-cult-842#.qtmyWXdpzr
  
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  A Judicial experience.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.

  the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.

  the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.

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  That is truly a tragedy for everyone involved. How can anyone think this organization has God's blessing when they are so lacking in love, the thing that Jesus said would be the mark of his true followers?

  Of course we were all conditioned to think this callous indifference was needed discipline, and the rank and file were kept ignorant of how cruel they could be. The organization was good at making you think black was white.
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  badly handled from Elders

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.

  i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.

  well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.

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  Many people are jealous and intimidated by people who are attractive, they may try to say hurtful things to bring you down, it's called leveling, they want to bring you down to their level. They are also probably intimidated by your spunky personality. The organization is also not kind to single women, they don't really know what to do with a woman on her own, as they have no status unless they are married. It's a misogynistic organization, women are considered less important that men.

  If you don't mind my asking, what is keeping you from leaving?
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  VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

  by WingCommander in

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  anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

  bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

  i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

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  BTW: I was in America just last week and down in Texas no less (San Antonio). It was nice (but HOT!). I didn't get shot so that was nice.

  I went to San Antonio last year in August. It was horribly hot. I only went then because my grandson was graduating from Air Force basic training. I wouldn't advise anyone to visit then, but the winters are nice there. I loved Riverwalk and my husband found a really nice boutique hotel there, so that made it bearable.

  I agree we have a problem with gun violence here in the U.S., but I think sometimes it gets a bit overstated. In 2013 there were 10.64 deaths per 100,000 people in the US. Canada and The UK were much less, 2.2 and .26, but many counties were much more. But it's not like every day here is the shootout at the OK corral.
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  If you could name the theme of an assembly what would it be???

  by karter in

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  divine boredom.

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  Armageddon is coming soon, so soon, just around the corner, this time we really, really mean it.

  Paying attention to the Faithful slave, because we are bound to get a prediction right sometime.
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  Are You Raising An Introvert?

  by darth frosty in

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  its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

  it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

  this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

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  Those are all good, I'll be passing them along to my mostly introvert family.
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  Theory of Evolution and humanity are moving in parallel, and in opposite direction too!

  by iconoclastic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  proponents of evolution theory was comfortable with their easiest method of induction that says something like this: i saw a blind man in the us, then in russia, then in australian, then in africa ..., hence all men are blind.

  yet proofs are abundant for the decline (opposite of evolution) we experience globally!.

  1) most humans declined into greed, the result of which is climate change which has the potential to wipe out all life from the earth.

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  LisaRose

  So much bad information.

  Morals and evolution have nothing to do with each other. You are comparing two completely different things. It's like you are saying that the fact we have less oranges than yesterday proves we have less apples that yesterday.

  Evolution is about survival of a species, period. There is nothing either moral or not moral in survival. Morals are a construct of mankind, nature doesn't care.

  Humans have not "declined into greed", we were always greedy, it's just that now there are more of us and technology has enabled us to do more activities that produce carbon, thus climate change. Nothing to do with evolution either.

  Religions have not "declined into decisiveness". More people = more religions. Also nothing to do with evolution. Nothing.

  The bible foretold nothing. People have been complaining about declining morals since before the bible. In the bible, slavery was good and rape was allowable in the right circumstances and women were owned by their husbands. I would argue we are more moral now than in the bible times.

  Deadly diseases are not on the increase. One hundred years ago the average life expectancy was 45. We have eradicated many comunicable sideases and made serious improvements in cancer treatment. You can go back to 1915, I would rather live right now, or even better, a hundred years from now when they will have beaten cancer and heart disease.
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  Advice

  by Tigerlove in

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  2. relationships

  hello, new member here.

  i have a question that has been bugging me for a couple of months now.

  so i have been dating this guy(a witness ) for over a year now.

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  I am sorry, but I cannot offer you much hope. Do you want to be in a relationship where your boyfriend is ashamed of you? Do you want to be with a man that lies to his parents because he doesn't want to find a different place to live? These are mayor red flags that it's not a good situation for you. If he loved you he should be willing to stand up to his parents and find a different place to live if he had to.

  The only chance for you to be accepted by his parents is if you became a Jehovah's Witness. As you have seen, this religion is not what you thought it was. Trust your feelings on this, the Watchtower has lied about it's history and practices. Once you become a Jehovah's Witness you must do everything they tell you or risk being disfellowshipped and shunned by every other JW. If your boyfriend is a baptized Jehovah's Witness he can be disfellowshipped for having sex outside of marriage.

  Your only chance would be if your boyfriend were to stand up to his parents and be open about you and his desire to be a Jehovah's Witness, but that doesn't seem likely. Even if he did, he might decide to go back to being a Jehovah's Witness, including four hours of meetings each week, door to door work every Saturday, no Christmas, no birthdays, no Easter, etc. Is that what you want in your life? Is that what you want for your children, if you had them? Do you want your future children to be told they will die a horrible death at Armageddon if they aren't good?

  You seem like a nice person, so why would you accept being treated like this?
  
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  Exiting the JW cult, by Bonnie Zieman.

  by Sabin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello to you all, i`m reading this book exiting the jw cult & i think so far it is brilliant.

  i emailed a friend the other day and said "sometimes i feel rage that isn't good towards the j dub`s & what they do to others".

  then i came across this section in the book, pg 62-63, where it says.

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  LisaRose

  I haven't read it, but I can relate to the idea that many JWs have a lot of repressed emotions that are making them sick.

  It's not acceptable in this religion to say you aren't 100% happy, because YOU HAVE THE TRUTH, how could you not be happy? If you do have problems, they can all be solved by more prayer, study, meetings and service. It doesn't take a psychologist to know that this is patently untrue and causes more people to feel worse because it makes then feel like a failure. The fact is that it is not acceptable to express negative emotions, especially for women.

  Anger and rage are expressed in a lot of different ways. Some people become depressed, some use alcohol or drugs to band-aid the problem, which only creates more problems. Some use illicit sex, other becomes workaholics. Some turn their negative emotions inwards and become sick. It becomes a negative spiral, becauseof the black and white thinking of the religion, as any of these things are seen as a moral failing.

  I read a story on the Jehovah's Witness suicide page that broke my heart. A young mother suffered from depression. The elders counseled her to be more diligent in meeting attendance and service. She signed up to auxiliary pioneer. Towards the end of the month she killed herself, she only had ten hours for the month, far short of what was needed.