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  Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap

  by HiddlesWife in

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  i'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.

  anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.

  they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?

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  LisaRose

  This is not an organization that values women, so it's not surprising that they are not treated well. The only acceptable function as a woman is as a mother, wife or Pioneer, if you are not doing any of these things then they have no use for you at all, you might as well be invisible. That's what happens when women are marginalized and not allowed to contribute, it's such a waste.

  I attended a church for a few months and it was such an eye opener that not every religion is this way. The church had a woman pastor, and many of the deacons were women also. What a difference it made when every person was allowed to contribute, it was clear everyone felt valued and had a function. You couldn't help compare their lively, joyful services and the dry, boring meetings at the Kingdom Hall.
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  Start A Butterfly Garden!

  by Bonsai in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  time to take a break from debating religion.

  take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

  how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

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  LisaRose

  That's a beautiful garden half Banana!
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  A two-petal flower

  by flower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got a note from my sons daycare the other day saying that for their spring project we need to bring in 'family flowers'.

  basically they want us to make a flower shaped collage of family photos which they are going to display in the classroom.

  each petal should have a picture of a different family member.

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  LisaRose

  Just realized this is an old thread
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  Archive of the Watchtwoer

  by universitystudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey everyone.

  i'm a university student very interested in the history of the jehova's witnesses, from the university of fribourg, switzerland.

  i would like to do an analysis of pictures of africa in the watchtower for a small research project.

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  LisaRose

  They don't have older publications on the official website because they like to change their doctrines frequently and pretend that's what they always believed, plus they have wrongly predicted the end of the world numerous times and they like to hide that fact. They call it "old light".

  Use the search function on this site and looked for "archive" or " older publications" you may be able to find a source.

  You might find this thread interesting:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5687757573718016/jehovahs-witnesses-racial-prejudice-werner-cohn
  
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  Help Me Regain Contact With My Still In Family

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  situation is, i'll never return to the wt.

  my family with never leave the wt.. depending on who you ask you'll get the following answers when you ask about me:.

  my family: he's confused.

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  LisaRose

  It's the dilemma we all face, there are no easy answers. It's a shame your family is so brainwashed they cannot see the futility and cruelty of their actions, but that is the reality of the situation.

  Some feel the effort to go back and live a lie is worth it to maintain family bonds , others do not, it depends on your feelings about your family and the toll it would take to live a life you don't want. My choice was easy, my parents are gone, my children are not in the religion and I value living my life on my own terms more than the association with my two JW siblings, as much as I care for them. But that's me, your milage may differ.

  My suggestion: If you do go back, make it clear to your mother that you are doing this just for them, but that it is going to take a toll on you to live something you don't believe in, she should know she is hurting you. If you don't go back, write her a letter and tell her how much her stance is hurting you and your child. And don't let her have access to that child, she doesn't get to reject you and see her granddaughter. Find a nice older woman to hire as a babysitter so your daughter gets the love of an adoptive grandma. If I lived in your city I would do it for free. Not to brag, but my "itsy bitsy spider" skills are top notch.

  Only you can decide what is right for you.
  

  Lisa 🌹
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  The bitter reality of death

  by Bonsai in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been a lot of death in my life recently.

  a close family member died yesterday.

  a close friend died 8 weeks ago - both from cancer.

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  I am sorry for your loss Bonsai, I am sure that must be very hard. I am struggling myself with all the recent news reports, it's almost too much to take in, so I feel your pain.

  Your words are so true, no matter what we may be going through, each day is a gift and we should treasure it.

  Lisa 🌹
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  I need a little help

  by Darryl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.

  a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.

  from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.

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  LisaRose

  If there was a scripture that mentions donkey poop laying on some dirt they can decipher the scripture and tell you who the greater donkey poop and the greater dirt is

  LOL, too true. If you could figure that one out, I don't think you need anyone's help figuring the rest out. Just look at the facts and use those same critical thinking skills.
  
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  Male Prostitutes in demand during RNC convention

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  among those making cleveland extra gay this week are male prostitutes who are in high demand among older, allegedly heterosexual male republican delegates.. the new york post reports: .

  i’ve seen 10 clients so far,” one male escort said.. “most of them were first-timers.

  you could tell they were nervous, but once they became more comfortable, they seemed to be having a good time.”.

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  LisaRose

  Well, it's an interesting report, can you really read anything into the anecdotal comments of a few male prostitutes? It wouldn't be surprising if true, the phenomenon of closeted gay men in the Republican party is not unknown.

  Millie, of course Dems do this, but most democrats do not hide their homosexuality because it's not as unacceptable to be gay in the democratic Party. It's the hypocrisy of hiding what you are and as a gay man supporting a party that is against gay rights.

  To be fair, they did have an openly gay man as a speaker this year.
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  LisaRose

  I believe I am more moral since I became an atheist.

  Before, I followed a set of rules decided on by someone else. I didn't always think through the consequences of my actions, because if I was following the rules I figured I was fine. I was honest, law abiding and moral, in the traditional sense, but I didn't worry about the environment, social injustice or the consequences of blindly following my religious leaders.

  I am still honest, law abiding and moral, but more importantly I think through the consequences of my actions in deeper ways. I realize God is not going to fix everything, so I have to do what I can to help the environment and make the world a better place. I don't follow anyone blindly, I think for myself. I am kinder, more tolerant of others and overall a better person.
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  Conventions that are out of touch with reality

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watching the news from the past few nights, i have come to the conclusion that the only convention that's crazier and more out of touch with reality than a jw convention is a us political convention.the strange-o show that is going on right now in cleveland, oh makes watching a bunker video look more sober and realistic by comparison.i have made the effort to do my civic duties as a voter, but these conventions require a devotion that is fanatical..

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  LisaRose

  There isn't shouting and chanting, because it doesn't fit with the Watchtower's concept of itself, but if the Watchtower wanted shouting and chanting, there would be shouting and chanting.