You should tell your mom that SHE has put you in a difficult position, having to explain to a young child why her grandmother won't come to visit. Tell her that it is entirely her choice to not visit, based solely on some words spoken by others, not her own conscience or her relationship with God, because she was fine visiting you before she went to the convention.
LisaRose
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anyone else had this following convention
by freeandcontent inso my mam visited today.
she recently went to convention in north east england, newcastle i think they still have them at.
before she left she said (this is her exact words btw) "you have put me in a difficult position and i can't come to see you anymore".. she told me that as i live with my partner and we are unmarried that she can't visit anymore.
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Why are the least informed people the most opinionated?
by Coded Logic inwhile trying to have a conversation with a trump supporter today i realized the person knew next to nothing about the us constitution, world events, trumps flip-flops, hillary's e-mails, etc.. i have sense decided it is much easier to do absolutely no research and boldly make broad proclamations rather than read up on a particular topic and make concise points.
as such, i will now be telling you why tim kaine was the worst governor new jersey has ever had:.
under tim kaine new jersey gdp dropped by 97%.. humming birds were able to penetrate restricted airspace.. the bridge to missouri kept getting closed.. he made the state look weak by having a state flower.. all the hard working i-pad miners lost their jobs.. and he set up obamacare death panels that were run by isis in planned parenthood vegan centers..
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LisaRose
I was just thinking about this today. I was wondering how anyone could support Trump after reading the news the last few days, but then I realized those who support him probably don't actually read or watch the news, and if they do they explain it away as lies from "the liberal media". It's like the JWs, they have bought into a concept and simply don't believe anything that would contradict their beliefs, explaining away uncomfortable truths as apostate lies.
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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75
by dogon ini have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
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LisaRose
The Awake magazine said that young people would never have time for a career in this system of things, so no point in going to college. I was one of the young people they were talking about, I am sixty one now, career come and gone, so it makes me see red that they deny it now.
It's worse that they held back from explicitly stating the world would end, while still making everyone think it was going to, as it proves they needed to have plausible deniability in case the prediction failed.
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"Mother" Teresa—a Fraud?
by Saename ini often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
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LisaRose
The idea that Mother Teresa was not the paragon of virtue that people believed her to be is not new to me. She was a marketable product, packaged and promoted like any other product.
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What's your passion???
by Faith after Deception inyesterday, i was feeling very blue.
this is quite unusual for me, as i tend to be quite an upbeat, positive person, so spells of sadness or depression take me by surprise and are a real shock to the system.
you know, i don’t believe in “putting on a face” or pretending to be ok; this “fake it ’til you make it” malarkey has never been something i’ve liked.
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LisaRose
My passion is Junk! I have space at an antique mall, and buy and sell all things vintage, but I especially love to take old junk and find a way to make it useful and beautiful again. I make vintage style signs from reclaimed wood, fix up and paint old furniture and also sew and and do flowers and collage art. I love going to garage sales, flea markets and estate sales to look for things I can use and I love being in my workshop painting and fixing. I don't know why this works for me, but I do know I feel my best when I am doing it.
I find it so sad that the Watchtower makes people feel that it is somehow wrong or disloyal to feel passion for anything other than the preaching work. Giving up something you love out of obligation and guilt is not a path to a fulfilling and happy life.
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Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap
by HiddlesWife ini'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.
anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.
they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?
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LisaRose
This is not an organization that values women, so it's not surprising that they are not treated well. The only acceptable function as a woman is as a mother, wife or Pioneer, if you are not doing any of these things then they have no use for you at all, you might as well be invisible. That's what happens when women are marginalized and not allowed to contribute, it's such a waste.
I attended a church for a few months and it was such an eye opener that not every religion is this way. The church had a woman pastor, and many of the deacons were women also. What a difference it made when every person was allowed to contribute, it was clear everyone felt valued and had a function. You couldn't help compare their lively, joyful services and the dry, boring meetings at the Kingdom Hall.
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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LisaRose
That's a beautiful garden half Banana!
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A two-petal flower
by flower ini got a note from my sons daycare the other day saying that for their spring project we need to bring in 'family flowers'.
basically they want us to make a flower shaped collage of family photos which they are going to display in the classroom.
each petal should have a picture of a different family member.
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LisaRose
Just realized this is an old thread
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Archive of the Watchtwoer
by universitystudent inhey everyone.
i'm a university student very interested in the history of the jehova's witnesses, from the university of fribourg, switzerland.
i would like to do an analysis of pictures of africa in the watchtower for a small research project.
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LisaRose
They don't have older publications on the official website because they like to change their doctrines frequently and pretend that's what they always believed, plus they have wrongly predicted the end of the world numerous times and they like to hide that fact. They call it "old light".
Use the search function on this site and looked for "archive" or " older publications" you may be able to find a source.
You might find this thread interesting:
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Help Me Regain Contact With My Still In Family
by pale.emperor insituation is, i'll never return to the wt.
my family with never leave the wt.. depending on who you ask you'll get the following answers when you ask about me:.
my family: he's confused.
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LisaRose
It's the dilemma we all face, there are no easy answers. It's a shame your family is so brainwashed they cannot see the futility and cruelty of their actions, but that is the reality of the situation.
Some feel the effort to go back and live a lie is worth it to maintain family bonds , others do not, it depends on your feelings about your family and the toll it would take to live a life you don't want. My choice was easy, my parents are gone, my children are not in the religion and I value living my life on my own terms more than the association with my two JW siblings, as much as I care for them. But that's me, your milage may differ.
My suggestion: If you do go back, make it clear to your mother that you are doing this just for them, but that it is going to take a toll on you to live something you don't believe in, she should know she is hurting you. If you don't go back, write her a letter and tell her how much her stance is hurting you and your child. And don't let her have access to that child, she doesn't get to reject you and see her granddaughter. Find a nice older woman to hire as a babysitter so your daughter gets the love of an adoptive grandma. If I lived in your city I would do it for free. Not to brag, but my "itsy bitsy spider" skills are top notch.
Only you can decide what is right for you.
Lisa 🌹