Leo's Kingly post.
Off topic and not necessary to address at this time. If you will contact JWs in your area you can find out the answers for what you bring up. Or consult the WT publications which will explain them by means of the Bible.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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Jeffro said: you are merely a liar, trying to deceive readers
Where did I lie?
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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Jeffro said: What a lame defense!! Don't just assume that no one will verify, thirdwitness. Actually, the name Arioch is Assyriaco-Chaldaic. Nebuzaradan is also Chaldaic. They are completely different names, and neither is Aramaic. The most logical and consistent conclusion is that completely different periods are described.
Did you read Leo's earlier post about Arioch and Nebuzaradan. They apparently occupied two different positions. It does not prove that they were in their positions at completely different periods in time.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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As respects Carl Jonsson: I ask the above question about his godship because I notice a lot of the posters here are often referring to him as if he is the final authority on the matter. Whereas I am not quoting the WT publications as the final authority to prove my points. No, I am quoting the Bible. You should be held to the same criteria.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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Steve said: Just for clarification of your post, are you saying: Neb assigns Daniel to be taught for three years, after those three years Neb identifies Daniel to be the greatest among all the wise men, in the Kings second year Daniel interprets the dream. Therefore the second year referred to in Daniel 2:1 has to be much later for the account to be correct?
I am saying that the 3 years of training ended before the '2nd year' of Neb in Daniel 2:1. If the 3 years of training ended after Neb's actual 2nd year of ruling Babylon, then Daniel had already interpreted Neb's dream and was made district ruler and chief prefect etc before his training ended which is clearly not the case. It is apparent when Daniel was brought before Neb at the end of the 3 years of training that he was not district ruler and chief prefect. Since the 3 years of training ended first Daniel could not have possibly interpreted the dream during the actual 2nd year of Neb's rule. Therefore the 2nd year of Neb's rule mentioned in Daniel 2 is his 2nd year as ruler over the world. It is his 2nd year as ruler since he usurped God's throne. It is not his actual 2nd year as ruler of Babylon. That is impossible.
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thirdwitness and other pseudo-scholars: Let's discuss the Hillah Stele
by AuldSoul inthirdwitness and other pseudo-scholars, .
firstly, i offer this disclaimer: i am not a scholar.
but i can add and subtract.
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auldsoul: secular experts have credentials and no vested interest in deceiving anyone by means of their interpretations of secular data.
The problem with the conclusions of the secular experts is that they do not give the inspired word of God, the Bible, any greater weight than the other writings. Maybe less.
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thirdwitness and other pseudo-scholars: Let's discuss the Hillah Stele
by AuldSoul inthirdwitness and other pseudo-scholars, .
firstly, i offer this disclaimer: i am not a scholar.
but i can add and subtract.
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Midget said: Do you have any stele, diaries or other contemporary inscriptions that show Elhulhul was destroyed during Nebuchadnezzar's reign (your speculation)?
Right back at ya: Do you have any stele, diaries or other contemporary inscriptions that show Elhulhul was destroyed during Nabopolassers 16th year(your speculation)?
Looting does not mean destroying. Jerusalem example was given as proof.
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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Can anyone please quote my lies and show me what questions I have not answered? When I gave the summary of this thread as respects the 40 year desolation I quoted what many have said in support of my summary. How is it then that I am lying about the arguments made on this thread about the 40 year desolation.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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At any rate, Arioch/Nebuzaradan does not prove the point that Cyberguy was trying to make and that Carl Jonsson so happily accepted as proof against JWs.
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Daniel's 3 year training and the 2nd year of Nebuchadnezzar.
by thirdwitness inthe previous 607 thread was locked down where the 587 defenders could not overcome the clear reasoning of the bible about the 40 year desolation of egypt.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/117647/1.ashx
but before it was locked down norm brought up a lot of points.
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It is possible that Nebuzaradan was also known as Arioch and is merely the same person. Since Daniel 2 is written in Aramaic whereas the other scriptures concerning Nebuzaradan are written in Hebrew it is possible that Arioch is his name in Aramaic or another language. Also Jewish tradition holds that Arioch which means 'roars like a lion' or 'lion-like' received this name because of the lionlike manner in which he treated the Jews and it is possible that he received this name as a result of his treatment toward the Jews and Daniel simply chose to use that name rather than his Babylonian name.
Personally, I like the other explanation better that Arioch and Nebuzaradan were not the same and held two entirely different positions.