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  Heaven and Hell : Life after death

  by bioflex in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

  i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

  hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

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  Dogpatch

  Sorry folks, forgot ma references:

  http://www.randallwatters.org/hellcomp.htm

  Dogz in Hell today.

  call me.

  beat me.

  Do SOMETHING!!!

  Too may zombie movies. I've got to shoot my TV .

  MAA???
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  Heaven and Hell : Life after death

  by bioflex in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am starting this topic to discuss the title.

  i know many people on this forums dont believe in the idea of god , and even jw's reject the idea of a fiery hell even though the bible clearly states is.. this video contain testimonies osome people who even considered themselves as atheists until the point of practical death.. i just want to emphasize what one person said in the video at the point of death - " what if god is real, and what if all that which was being said about god was true" .

  hope this helps whoever it may.. and one more thing, no matter what you do or how you live your life, just know that even at the point of death, jesus christ is able to save.

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  Dogpatch

  To Vanderhoven7

  Greetings my friend.

  If you are an archeologist or historical linguist, circular arguments about "what the Bible says about the Bible" (as you know) are absolutely useless. Go listen to a Mormon try to verify facts in the Book of Mormon with the Book of Mormon. Idiots.

  The "Lake of Fire," Gehennom, Tartarus, and the "Jehovah and the angels" bandwagon with their ringside seats around the sinners on the grill with eternal popcorn is a bit tacky nowadays, don't you think? It seems when you leave Jesus out of the immediate picture, the old gods go back to their habits of torture and dismemberment.

  It is so minus 4th century. The Pharisees ate it up from the Greeks. Jesus believed it from the teachers (Pharisees). (Reread the Rich Man and Lazarus from the standpoint of a child who was raised to actually BELIEVE that horror - and JESUS uses it to SCARE the Pharisees! Don't you see how much sense that makes if you believed like they did, which is in recorded history, rather than trying to change the entire scenario in your mind????)

  Obviously you are not good at magic tricks if you haven't by now. Neither am I.

  Okay I'm going off. The hounds of hell are after me.

  Christians should believe in hell. If they believe in Inerrancy. In fact, they should believe in a LOT of scary things. I guess the Republicans have proved that? (Eggs on my face). Hey, I voted for Bush the first time. Now is that scary?

  Christians have no reason to fear anything. So why do they?

  The OT has very little about the place called "Sheol." The Rabbis were not so afraid of it as modern Christians are of the devil (an idiotic conundrum that always baffled me - I wasn't afraid of the devil BEFORE I became a Christian. Why would I be afterwards???) (Don't get me started on Christians doing exorcisms on Christians and getting slain in the Spirit!!)

  But one thing is for sure, in Sheol there was a soul that was conscious. The whole point of the modern Jews being buried on the Mount of Olives is so that their bodies would "roll down" and meet the soul, wherein they would be perfect, and in Paradise. Paradise was BOTH heaven and earth, but not too ethereal as yet. You will be with me in Paradise.

  The "hell" and Gehenna and Lake of Fire and Tartarus of the New Testament are FAR MORE GHASTLY of punishments than what the OT has. Even the Ultra-Orthodox Jews wouldn't touch that one seriously.

  So, what the hell?

  
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  What's the latest status on ol' Brother Prince Rogers Nelson?

  by NoRegrets in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i was last affiliated with a minneapolis area congregation a few years back.

  we saw prince and the larry graham entourage at a sunday meeting once and at many assemblies and conventions.

  i know he was affiliated with a congregation in a city named chanhassen at one time.

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  Dogpatch

  I'm actually Prince, CoCo.

  Randy
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  What's the latest status on ol' Brother Prince Rogers Nelson?

  by NoRegrets in

  1. social
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  i was last affiliated with a minneapolis area congregation a few years back.

  we saw prince and the larry graham entourage at a sunday meeting once and at many assemblies and conventions.

  i know he was affiliated with a congregation in a city named chanhassen at one time.

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  Dogpatch

  Well at least he had GAME once..... too bad.
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  What's the latest status on ol' Brother Prince Rogers Nelson?

  by NoRegrets in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i was last affiliated with a minneapolis area congregation a few years back.

  we saw prince and the larry graham entourage at a sunday meeting once and at many assemblies and conventions.

  i know he was affiliated with a congregation in a city named chanhassen at one time.

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  Dogpatch
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  What's the latest status on ol' Brother Prince Rogers Nelson?

  by NoRegrets in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i was last affiliated with a minneapolis area congregation a few years back.

  we saw prince and the larry graham entourage at a sunday meeting once and at many assemblies and conventions.

  i know he was affiliated with a congregation in a city named chanhassen at one time.

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  Dogpatch

  LOL

  This could turn out good for a lonely Sunday night.

  Shamus, you are da bomb. Love you.

  Just don't ask to live with me.

  thetrueone, no hard feelings. I just have a flash point when intolerance makes me supernatural.

  Ask Zen if you doubt! I turned him into a hamster one night!!

  Like Buffy. think Ringer.
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  This site is a bad site! I am ashamed that i have joined!

  by MsPassach in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am so ashamed that i joined this site!

  i thought that i would meet people here that honour jehovah here.

  insread most of the people here are not here for the service of god.

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  Dogpatch

  another self-righteous troll.

  Shall I bring out the best white wine and caviar?

  Or will it pass through the hatch in the bubble you live in?

  Randy

  I am truly ashamed of myself for even responding to you, fool.

  Wake up sometime before you die.

  
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  Cal for cult-related papers, music, etc. for "The Phoenix Project"

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  call for work.

  the phoenix project, an exhibit of art and literary works that have been created by former cult members, seeks art, musical, and literary submissions for the annual conference of the international cultic studies association, to be held in montreal, july 5 -7, 2012. .

  if you are a former member of a cult or high demand organization, we invite you to participate in this upcoming exhibit to present art, musical, and literary (english or french) work related to your experiences while in your group or during your recovery.. if you have not yet created your work, but have had some ideas, now might be the time to bring those ideas to fruition, if you would like to bring to light the realities of your group experience for others to see.. creations may be in any art form, including but not limited to: literary (such as poetry, drama, short story, or other writings), music of any kind, dance, and the visualarts (such as paintings, drawings, collage, sculpture, fiber arts, photography, film, video, or multi-media).. if desired, your work may be presented anonymously, or through another presenter.. this exhibit will shed light on the nature of cult and high demand organizations and their effects on individuals.

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  Dogpatch

  Call for Work

  The Phoenix Project, an exhibit of art and literary works that have been created by former cult members, seeks art, musical, and literary submissions for the annual conference of the International Cultic Studies Association, to be held in Montreal, July 5 -7, 2012.

  If you are a former member of a cult or high demand organization, we invite you to participate in this upcoming exhibit to present art, musical, and literary (English or French) work related to your experiences while in your group or during your recovery.

  If you have not yet created your work, but have had some ideas, now might be the time to bring those ideas to fruition, if you would like to bring to light the realities of your group experience for others to see.

  Creations may be in any art form, including but not limited to: literary (such as poetry, drama, short story, or other writings), music of any kind, dance, and the visualarts (such as paintings, drawings, collage, sculpture, fiber arts, photography, film, video, or multi-media).

  If desired, your work may be presented anonymously, or through another presenter.

  This exhibit will shed light on the nature of cult and high demand organizations and their effects on individuals. Previous exhibits have demonstrated that the opportunity to present artistic works is an empowering experience for participating artists who have the opportunity to tell their own stories in their own ways.

  To submit your art, literary, or other works, or for more information, please e-mail Phoenix Project Director and Coordinator Diana Pletts at: [email protected]

  Diana Pletts, M.A., directs and coordinates The Phoenix Project, which provides a time and place for cult survivors to present their cult and recovery related artwork. A former member of the Path, a charismatic Christian End-Times group, she is working, herself, on the production of artwork to express her own group involvement. Diana has spoken on cult affiliation at colleges and churches, on the radio, as a speaker for Elderhostel, and at Chautauqua Institution . She lives with her husband, Dennis, in Maryland, and is Art and Literary Editor for ICSA Today. Some Phoenix Project works may be considered for publication in ICSA Today. Those interested in participating in The Phoenix Project, or in obtaining more information about the Project, are invited to e-mail her at [email protected].
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  Hey Randy!!!

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i noticed a new fb friend you added yesterday, and recognized him from a hall i used to attend.

  i contacted him, and have since chatted up.

  we have a bit more catching up to do.

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  Dogpatch

  In December we hope to do it again for the fireworks at Manhattan Beach Pier, have a Red Cross blood truck for those who wish to donate specifically for JWs, and our ongoing plans for AJWRB.ORG.

  Randy
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  Hey Randy!!!

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i noticed a new fb friend you added yesterday, and recognized him from a hall i used to attend.

  i contacted him, and have since chatted up.

  we have a bit more catching up to do.

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  Dogpatch

  excellent! BTW you missed out on the tamales Saturday. :-))

  Randy