It took several years and I am still struggling with some issues. I had read the "Crisis of Conscience" book a couple of years before I left, then felt guilty and threw it away. I started doing research here and there, mostly online, for me the straw that broke the camels back was finding out about the NGO association with the UN and the fact that the society never told us about it. That made me question the sincerity of the organization enough to leave. Actually, I have been learning more and more about various deceitful things the society pulled since joining this board and it floors me how many lies and coverups the society has been involved in. That is why I am struggling, it is hard to believe how snowed I was and why it took me so long to see it.
okie46
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Can you completely change beliefs almost overnight?
by JH in.
i was talking with a person who was a jw for over 20 years, served in the org, and then quits after finding out it wasn't the truth, becomes athiest almost overnight after reading many books.. gee, thats a quick change....
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Men, women and toilet seat etiquette
by Gregor ini've never quite understood the big deal about men leaving the toilet seat up but since i hear so much about it i try to comply.
i do have a pet peeve.
sometimes when i lift the seat there are obvious signs on the underside that a female has used it and not bothered to 'tidy up'.
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okie46
I love toilet talk!
Hey Chuckie so do I, we could start a radio call in show and call it "Toilet Talk", thanks for the info on Formula 1 drivers, don't know why I always wonder about weird stuff like that but I do.
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Men, women and toilet seat etiquette
by Gregor ini've never quite understood the big deal about men leaving the toilet seat up but since i hear so much about it i try to comply.
i do have a pet peeve.
sometimes when i lift the seat there are obvious signs on the underside that a female has used it and not bothered to 'tidy up'.
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okie46
I remember going to watch the cricket one year, and a few of my mates (I would never do something like this) took catheters with them. Theyre the type that fit like a condom with a tube and bag attached to the end. They sat there with the bags hanging down their legs, it prevented
usthem, having to get up and line up for the toilet every half an hour from drinking way too much beer!IChuckie77, I have always wondered how astronauts pee while in space... also Formula 1 race car drivers.. what do they do if they have to pee during a race??? Maybe they use those bag things too.
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Suicide note posted at JustJWs. Is this genuine?
by nicolaou in.
i'm not sure what to make of this, what do you think?.
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okie46
Sorry this is so long but...
Nicolaou.. I wasn't able to read the letter, guess it is gone, so don't know the specifics. If someone is really threatening suicide, that is a serious deal I agree. I had an ex-boyfriend that I had split up with, but was still friends with. He had some alcohol and other substance issues, he used to always call me and tell me how depressed he was and I would try to encourage him to go to the doctor and get some help.Once day he emailed me and told me goodbye while I was at work. I was very worried and didn't know what to do. He wouldn't answer his phone for several hours. I didn't know what to do, didn't know if I should try to find his family or what, or if he was even serious. Later that evening he called me and said he was okay, just depressed and worried, hated his job and drowning his sorrows in booze and pot.
A couple of weeks later, he told me that he had been fired from his job, that night he messaged me online and said that this would be his last night on earth, he was going to watch the sun go down and then take a bunch of tranquilizers and kill himself. I panicked and kept trying to reach him by phone, finally I reached him and I could tell that he had been drinking and had already taken a bunch of pills. I asked him if I could come get him and take him to the hospital, he told me NO and that he had a gun and would use it if I called the police or came up there, he lived way out in the country an hour away. I called a former police officer that is a friend of mine and he said that I should call the County Sheriff's office and have them do an involuntary committment. I was afraid to call the cops because he grows his own and I didn't want him to get busted for that on top of all his other problems. But I couldn't not call and have him go through with his threat. So I called the Sheriff's office and told them that he was threatening suicide and I believed he would carry through with it. They asked me if he had a gun and I had to tell them yes and they told me if he pointed it at them, it would be very ugly and would probably be shot. They went out there to his house with all available manpower and my friend went willingly with them. They took him to a mental health hospital and he was in hospital for 5 days and then had to go before a judge before he could be released.
At first, he was so mad at me he would not speak to me. I had lined up a rehab center he could go to for free, but he refused to go. At first he wouldn't return my calls or emails. Then a couple of months later, he called me and thanked me for what I did, because he told me he would have killed himself that night for sure. He was put on medication and started doing better. Long story, but since then, he met a wonderful woman, is happy and they are getting married.
This was one of the hardest things that I had ever done, agonizing if I was doing the right thing by having him committed involuntarily, but I believe it saved his life. I am so glad because I care for him deeply and hated to see him in such pain. Anyway, this doesn't have anything to do with the letter that guy wrote, but that is my experience with someone threatening to commit suicide.
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Survivor: Cook Island....A New Twist
by Sweetp0985 inofficial survivor: cook islands cast announcement
wednesday, august 23 - on the early show (cbs).
a survivor twist!
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okie46
I like earthtone's idea, and earthtone I love your new picture.
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My last baby just started school
by mrsjones5 in.
he's only 3. he got on the bus this morning and when he realized that i wasn't coming with him he started to cry.
i know the tears won't last for long because he really loves school, but it was hard seeing him go like that.. josie
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okie46
I cried when my babies went to school also. I was fortunate enough that I was able to stay home with the kids until the last one was in kindergarten. mrsjones,, my youngest was speech delayed also, he needed tubes in his ears and his Dad and I were dumb enough to let some in the congregation talk us out of it at first. Then when he was 2 and 1/2 we had them put in, at first when he started talking he sounded like he was speaking another language because before the tubes everything he heard was muffled. Afterwards, his ear infections stopped and he had about 4 years of speech therapy. He was smart as a whip though and the speech therapy helped him so much. P.S. He just graduated from Oklahoma University with a Geology and Petroleum Engineering degree. So proud of him.
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Can we do "this" the next apostafest?
by Sparkplug intake a group of friends and put them in a tub!
but with a twist.
mmmmmmmm chocolate
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okie46
And who is going to beat me, you??!!! I don't think so!
HAH!!!!!!!!! I will win, just look at my picture... you know I would win!!!!
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Why do you think Mormons are more acceptable in society then Witnesses?
by free2beme inmormons think the garden of eden was in jackson county missouri.
they think that american indians are descendants of a tribe of israel that came to america and were turned red from their sins.
they think that jesus appeared to the indians.
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okie46
Maybe part of the reason is besides being a more active part of society, they also celebrate Christmas, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir has one of the most beautiful Christmas concerts.
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okie46
jgnat, you are so real in your responses. I always appreciate your candid, well thought out responses.
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Men, women and toilet seat etiquette
by Gregor ini've never quite understood the big deal about men leaving the toilet seat up but since i hear so much about it i try to comply.
i do have a pet peeve.
sometimes when i lift the seat there are obvious signs on the underside that a female has used it and not bothered to 'tidy up'.
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okie46
Most guys I have known just peed outside....JOKING!!!! :) I do think they should hold that thing, instead of just standing up with their hand on the wall and just trying to aim for the bowl. Yes, I know some do a pretty good job and it is a thing of honor to not miss. Re whether lid is up or down.....I fell in the toilet when I was 5 years old and got up to pee one night, my Dad had left the lid up. Ever since then i always check b4 I sit. Right now I don't have to worry about it though. I have always thought that who ever uses the toilet should lift or lower lid depending on their preference, it is no big deal... same thing with how the toilet paper is put on the daggum roll. I do think that whoever soils the rim or seat should wipe it down before they leave the bathroom, that is just cleanliness and courtesy. AND YES I AGREE... Women can be just as nasty or nastier than what they accuse men of in the bathroom. In the grand scheme of things, think there are more important things to do than worry about who does what and how the toilet paper is put on the roller.
P.S. I have always been jealous that I can not write my name in the snow.