Posts by doinmypart

2)What stuff should I bring to the dorm? So far I've got: portable blender, microwave, fridge, cell phone, bed stuff, toliet stuff, pens and pencils in a cup, laptop, stereo, ipod, printer, clothes, umbrella, sleeping bag, air mattress, condoms, and a PS2. What am I missing?

Lamp, waste basket, clothes hangers, laundry basket, first aid kit, plastic cups, playing cards

3)How do I manage going to the meetings while on living campus? I don't want to be caught wearing a suit, nonetheless caught going to a meeting.

Don't go. Will your parents know? If so, go to the TMS and leave after the #3 talk. Someone usually posts the Service Mtg schedule on this board so you can find out what is scheduled in case your parents ask. Go to 1 or 2 bookstudies a month and skip the rest. Do this for the first semester, and after the Xmas break stop going altogether.

4)How do I manage going to the meetings? Introduction, "Hi, I'm Chris." "Yeah, I'm living on campus." "Do I have a suit? Well uh..."

Don't talk to many people at the KH. At first they will be excited to see a new face, but if you go in their with an attitude and being distant they'll leave you alone.

5)How do I work this out? I have to come home on the weekends to go to Sunday meetings and wash my clothes. I'd like to know a good way around this.

Go home on Saturday and wash your clothes then. Will your parents cut you off if you don't go to the Sunday meeting? My advice is to wash your clothes, and visit with your parents on another day/time and not go to the meeting; or figure out a way to make enough money so you can go to a laundromat.

6)Car. I don't want my parents to have me in their control. So I want a used cheap car. There's a used 2002 Honda Civic EX with 54000 miles out there at the dealership. My dad said thats a piece of junk. It was $12000. They wanted to get me a new 2005 Ford Mustang for $22000. I already have a new 2004 GMC single cab truck. I don't like the truck because I look short in it, so I definitely want to get a car. I'm probably getting a new 2005 Honda VP for $15000, but I really want the 2002 for $12000. Is this a wise decision? Suggestions?

Get the '02 Civic, if it checks out clean. Man, you've got plenty of time to have any ride you want later. Best to get something cheaper, rather than relying on the parents. You also asked for suggestions...is your truck paid for? If so, do you want to reconsider keeping it at least for the first year until you can get settled into college life? That is what I would do.

7)Money. Now I have a $500 credit card, and I have a checking and savings account, but it's going to be empty once I get my school stuff like backpack, shirts, supplies. I'm not working when I'm down there because I need to focus on education, and that means no income whatsoever. I definitely don't want to depend on the parents right now. I'm kind of confused right now because my dad wants me to have a normal life, and my mom wants me to be a good little Jehovah's Witness. They conflict, and I hate it. I'm going to have to eat something down there, and resupply myself. But they will pay my bills like insurance, and cell phone if I attend the meetings down there. That's like $400 total because I wrecked 3 times. What can I do?

Your dad doesn't sound like a staunch JW. If he wants you to have a normal life, will he really enforce the "attend meetings for financial support rule"? Parents have expectations for their children, sometimes we dissapoint. If you don't want your parents conflicting over you, then my advice is to...go with the cheapest transportation (even if that means keeping your truck as I mentioned earlier), carry no more than a 15 hour class load, get a part-time job, don't go to the meetings, pay your own bills, buckle down and get things done. Other than that as long as you depend on them for something, they'll be able to hold that over your head.

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WTS Troubles: Cheap computer + increased 'net

by doinmypart in

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india rolled out a cheap, $225, computer and wants to increase access to the internet.

as technology rolls along and more people become accustomed to it, the wts leaders ring their hands and lose a little more control.. oh how i hope this trend continues, having an increasingly greater impact on the wts.. india's first low-cost personal computer has been launched in the tamil nadu state capital, madras.

designed by it firm hcl infosystems, it is priced at 9,990 rupees ($225) and includes all the basic features required for a first-time user.

doinmypart

India rolled out a cheap, $225, computer and wants to increase access to the internet. As technology rolls along and more people become accustomed to it, the WTS leaders ring their hands and lose a little more control.

Oh how I hope this trend continues, having an increasingly greater impact on the WTS.

India's first low-cost personal computer has been launched in the Tamil Nadu state capital, Madras. Designed by IT firm HCL Infosystems, it is priced at 9,990 rupees ($225) and includes all the basic features required for a first-time user. The computer is expected to increase India's level of computer penetration.
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IT experts have always maintained that low-cost computers will help increase the number of users by a large margin. They also say that internet connectivity will spread across the country, which would be of great advantage to India.
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At present, India has 15 million computers and five million net connections. The government wants to increase the number to 75 million computers and 45 million net connections by 2010.

See full story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/4735927.stm

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How many baptisms at your District Convention (if you went)

by TheListener in

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please, if you went to the convention this year or go later please post the number of individuals baptized.. .

thank you.

doinmypart

44 baptized at the DC I attended, and 6 of those appeared to be pre-teens. There was a peak attendance of 6,708 Sunday morning, so a little less than 1% baptized.

Another note regarding baptisms...there were a couple of interviews, two young girls - - one was baptized 3 years ago at the age of 10, the other was baptized last year at the age of 10.

These poor kids getting baptized so young, they don't know what they're getting into.

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WTS to put ASL Bible on DVD & 'net

by doinmypart in

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found this "news" item:a jehovahs witnesses translation team is also working on translating the bible in asl on dvd.

the four gospels will be available from http://www.watchtower.org in the fall.. .

interesting to see the wts move more to electronic media...the nwt online, videos on dvd, mags on cd & mp3.. here's a link to the full story, http://ydr.com/story/religion/76866/.

doinmypart

Found this "news" item:

A Jehovah’s Witnesses’ translation team is also working on translating the Bible in ASL on DVD. The four Gospels will be available from http://www.watchtower.org in the fall.

Interesting to see the WTS move more to electronic media...the NWT online, videos on DVD, mags on CD & MP3.

Here's a link to the full story, http://ydr.com/story/religion/76866/. The story is near the bottom of the page.

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Also, has anyone seen the WTS online video about the Bible? There are 3 interviews
1) The angry wife
2) The angrgy husband
3) The drug addict
Exaggerated scenes, whack a$$ music, and an irritating voice over round out this nauseating video.
http://www.watchtower.org/library/vcpf/article_02.htm

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What kind of a response would I get if I asked the JW's at my door

by Agnes in

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to explain theocratic warfare?

agnes

doinmypart

In addition to the letter Rebel8 posted, here are some recent articles regarding "theocratic warfare", "theocratic strategy", "withholding from one not entitled". The practice is still promoted...

*** w04 11/15 p. 28 “The Tent of the Upright Ones Will Flourish” ***
The faithful witness does not commit perjury when testifying. His testimony is not tainted with lies. However, this does not mean that he is under obligation to give full information to those who may want to bring harm to Jehovah’s people in some way. The patriarchs Abraham and Isaac withheld facts from some who did not worship Jehovah. (Genesis 12:10-19; 20:1-18; 26:1-10) Rahab of Jericho misdirected the king’s men. (Joshua 2:1-7) Jesus Christ himself refrained from divulging total information when doing so would have caused needless harm. (John 7:1-10) He said: “Do not give what is holy to dogs.” Why not? So that “they may never . . . turn around and rip you open.”—Matthew 7:6.

*** w04 12/1 p. 9 Highlights From the Book of Joshua ***
Why does Rahab mislead the king’s men who are searching for the spies? Rahab protects the spies at the risk of her life because she has come to have faith in Jehovah. Therefore, she is under no obligation to divulge the spies’ whereabouts to men who are seeking to harm God’s people. (Matthew 7:6; 21:23-27; John 7:3-10) In fact, Rahab was “declared righteous by works,” including the act of misdirecting the emissaries of the king.

*** g00 2/8 p. 21 Lying—Is It Ever Justified? ***
“Cautious as Serpents”
Of course, being truthful does not mean that we are obligated to divulge all information to anyone who asks it of us. “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never . . . turn around and rip you open,” warned Jesus, at Matthew 7:6. For example, individuals with wicked intent may have no right to know certain things. Christians understand that they are living in a hostile world. Thus, Jesus advised his disciples to be “cautious as serpents” while remaining “innocent as doves.” (Matthew 10:16; John 15:19) Jesus did not always disclose the full truth, especially when revealing all the facts could have brought unnecessary harm to himself or his disciples. Still, even at such times, he did not lie. Instead, he chose either to say nothing or to divert the conversation in another direction.

*** it-2 p. 245 Lie ***
While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it. Jesus Christ counseled: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open.” (Mt 7:6) That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10) Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light.

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What did the CO talk about on Tuesday afternoons?

by truthseeker in

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i don't know if this is a global policy, but the co would usually meet with the body of elders on tuesday and discuss the congregation and the brother's report cards.. if you were an elder and experienced this, what kind of questions did the co ask?

did he start the "recommendation" process then and there after reviewing the publishers report cards?

doinmypart

Greendawn said

The R & F fear the elders and the elders fear the COs and the COs fear the ones above them, all are bothered by the fear of getting thrown out of the org

FEAR...it is the best tactic the WTS Leaders have going. Fear of death at Armageddon, fear of losing privileges, fear of DF, and so on.

Learning the truth about the WTS certainly sets one free from this fear and it's negative effects.

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What did the CO talk about on Tuesday afternoons?

by truthseeker in

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i don't know if this is a global policy, but the co would usually meet with the body of elders on tuesday and discuss the congregation and the brother's report cards.. if you were an elder and experienced this, what kind of questions did the co ask?

did he start the "recommendation" process then and there after reviewing the publishers report cards?

doinmypart

The CO meets briefly with the PO on Tuesday to pick up the congregation records and the forms for who's working with the CO & wife, and feeding CO & wife.

I know a few COs that have keys to the KHs and will instruct the PO to leave the records after the meeting on Sunday, and the COs picks up the records whenever they feel like doing it on Monday or Tuesday. I also know CO that instructs the PO or Secretary to bring the records to his apartment.

There isn't anything of "importance" discussed at this time, that is reserved for the Elder & MS meeting on Friday night.

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I GOT A JOB!!

by RichieRich in

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i don't know how many of you knew this, but i've been looking for a job.

i submitted an app to a local burger joint, and one to a really good chicken place called zaxby's.

i had an interview yesterday at the burger place.

doinmypart

Congratulations Richie, getting paid is definitely a good thing!

Check_Your_Premises said

I would recommend a grocery store

Grocery store is a good first job, until you have to bring shopping carts inside, especially at a busy store in the summer time...those carts are all over the parking lot and the sun is beating down. I did that for one summer, then I wised up and got a job in the dairy section...ahhh the cool walk-in refrigerators in the summer time.

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Does the WTS disfellowship mentally challenged people?

by Elsewhere in

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has anyone ever seen a situation where the wts disfellowhiped someone who is autistic, retarded or otherwise mentally challenged?.

i wonder if the elders give them more leeway knowing that they are not always capable of making decisions as well as a normal person.. .

doinmypart

Yes, depending on the degree to which the person can function in society.

During a CO meeting with Elders just a few years ago this was outlined. It would depend on a case by case basis...does the person have the ability to live on their own...can the person hold down a job...etc.

I know a mentally challenged sister who was publicly reproved for getting horizontal with a mentally challenged guy she worked with. I know a mentally challenged brother publicly reproved for a drinking problem. Now I wonder how the BOE determined repentance in these cases, hmmm???