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the spin on downsizing is apparently "go out into the field" yet when the gb initially considered this it must have been presented as a practical problem - too much surplus hr capacity/ too expensive to maintain - or whatever and yet they turned it into a positive matter by stressing the return to the field - all those in such discussions are clearly able to deceive themselves as much as they try and deceive the "flock" - what do you think - did a discussion on a practical problem have to have a positive outcome and how did they twist their minds so as to sell it as such - for years they begged people to stay in bethel service (make it your home for life) and now they cast them out into the world with the thin veneer of "speedin g up the preaching work .. etc".
all those at the top must have been involved in turning this huge embarrasment (jehovah will provide etc) into a positive spin - they should try out for a marketing award "downsizing - the only way to grow!
Thanks.
In my area we seem to get WTS letters late, but I also miss a lot of meetings. I didn't know if I missed the letter or we just haven't received it yet. The PO made a comment at the meeting Sunday about the downsizing and there weren't many raised eyebrows...perhaps everyone at this KH accepted it.
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the spin on downsizing is apparently "go out into the field" yet when the gb initially considered this it must have been presented as a practical problem - too much surplus hr capacity/ too expensive to maintain - or whatever and yet they turned it into a positive matter by stressing the return to the field - all those in such discussions are clearly able to deceive themselves as much as they try and deceive the "flock" - what do you think - did a discussion on a practical problem have to have a positive outcome and how did they twist their minds so as to sell it as such - for years they begged people to stay in bethel service (make it your home for life) and now they cast them out into the world with the thin veneer of "speedin g up the preaching work .. etc".
all those at the top must have been involved in turning this huge embarrasment (jehovah will provide etc) into a positive spin - they should try out for a marketing award "downsizing - the only way to grow!
W-A-C
Was there a letter read in the congregations recently announcing the "downsizing"?
the wts is doing it again, another special campaign.. the september awake will be a special edition titled, is there a creator.
the entire magazine will focus on jehovah the creator, jehovah's witnesses are they creationists, was the earth created in 7 literal days, a special ypa article dealing with creation.
the congregations are instructed to order additional copies (in addition to their regular supply) of this awake to place in the territories.. why all the special campaigns?
The WTS is doing it again, another special campaign.
The September Awake will be a special edition titled, Is There A Creator. The entire magazine will focus on Jehovah the Creator, Jehovah's Witnesses are they Creationists, was the earth created in 7 literal days, a special YPA article dealing with creation. The congregations are instructed to order additional copies (in addition to their regular supply) of this Awake to place in the territories.
Why all the special campaigns? Something to stir up the R&F, create a sense of "something important happening"? The publishers should start realizing that all of these special campaigns are simply non-events.
hey everyone!
yesterday, may 15, 2006, gyldendal publishing company in copenhagen, denmark, published an expose' about the religion of jehovah's witnesses.
the name of the new book is, "dommedag ma vente," or, in english, "judgment day must wait," written by poul bregninge of denmark.
I am not a secret keeper per se, just someone who will continue to post any BOE letters, CO & Elder meeting notes, and recordings online as I am able.
Great job Barbara.
ooo yeah!!!
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that's right people.
Happy birthday. Have a great time tonight.
By the way you might try Chaser Plus. It is a "hangover pill" you can find it at Walgreens. It seems to help me.
well, seems like i can't get away - the elders my parents.
dangit!.
my parents and i were watching the news and low and behold ... my mom blurts out, "we are in the end huh?
When I talk to my wife & other JWs, they complain about being tired, having too much to do, and not enough time. I mention how it would be a good thing if there were fewer and/or shorter meetings. The typical response is, "We should meet together all the moreso as we get closer to the end."
Rather than meet less, these dubs think they should meet more...the deeper they get in this system of things with all of it's problems the more they need the meetings. I always end up frustrated, picking my jaw up from the floor.
I know deep down a lot of JWs probably dislike going to so many meetings, and when opportunities come up to miss a meeting they don't shed a tear. In a way I wish the WTS would shorten/eliminate a meeting or two, but that might encourage more JWs to stay. Perhaps if WTS continues to do nothing, more people will leave.
i live in the us and would like to experiment tasting some dark chocolates.
i've tried hershey's extra dark, 60%.
it was ok. i think i would like something a little stronger and with a better "feel"...the hershey bar melted fine, but had a "waxy" feel/taste.. i'd even like to try a chocolate made outside the us, but would be concerned about shipping (i wouldn't want it to melt).
I found Green & Blacks at the local Target store. I'll be trying it this evening.
Jourles - I'll try that Chantico drink at Starbucks this weekend, thanks!
i live in the us and would like to experiment tasting some dark chocolates.
i've tried hershey's extra dark, 60%.
it was ok. i think i would like something a little stronger and with a better "feel"...the hershey bar melted fine, but had a "waxy" feel/taste.. i'd even like to try a chocolate made outside the us, but would be concerned about shipping (i wouldn't want it to melt).
Everyone, thanks for the suggestions. I plan on trying everything mentioned.
It is funny how one's taste changes through the years. Several years ago when I first tried dark chocolate I couldn't stand the taste, but now I don't like certain milk chocolates. They're too sweet and taste waxy.
Again thanks for all the suggestions.
i live in the us and would like to experiment tasting some dark chocolates.
i've tried hershey's extra dark, 60%.
it was ok. i think i would like something a little stronger and with a better "feel"...the hershey bar melted fine, but had a "waxy" feel/taste.. i'd even like to try a chocolate made outside the us, but would be concerned about shipping (i wouldn't want it to melt).
I live in the US and would like to experiment tasting some dark chocolates. I've tried Hershey's Extra Dark, 60%. It was ok. I think I would like something a little stronger and with a better "feel"...the Hershey bar melted fine, but had a "waxy" feel/taste.
I'd even like to try a chocolate made outside the US, but would be concerned about shipping (I wouldn't want it to melt). Any suggestions? Brands, where to buy, etc...
large numbers of jw congregations are going to be trouble long before they lose their last elder to death or resignation.. most congregations i know have at least one - and often several - elders who can barely function at all, due to illness, old age.
or just plain inability to accomplish anything.
the society seems loathe to remove these men, despite their 'elder in name only'.
The WTS has a problem keeping elders/finding brothers to appoint as elders.
In one congregation the BOE were trying to find out if they could appoint a 25 year old as an elder. The PO called a few congregations asking the elders if they knew of anyone appointed at that age, or if there was any correspondence from WTS on the matter.
Another congregation has about 90 publishers and 4 elders. Two of the elders are in their 80s and have serious health problems. The other two elders are in their 50s and stretched thin; one elder is the PO, WT Conductor, Accounts...the other elder is the TMS Ov, Secretary, Literature, and Magazines. One of the 80 year old elders is Service Ov, but gets most of his field service time witnessing to the in-house aids that care for him through the week. The only MS in the congregation is in his 70s and has been a MS for about 20 years. Some MTS grads were sent there a few years ago. These guys were elders in the 25-35 year old range. One of the grads got married and moved away, the other grad got tired and moved back home.
Another congregation has four elders. Elder1 is in his 60s and suffers from depression. Elder2 is in his 50s regularly works 60 hr/weeks and his wife attends half the meetings. Elder3 is in his 40's and is a Super-Elder...substitute CO, city overseer, longtime pioneer. Elder4 is in his 40s and has the reasoning skills of a lemming (this elder couldn't understand why one publisher who was raped had emotional problems). This congregation has had 6 MS for the last 2 years, but none of them can qualify for elder, and it isn't for lack of trying. The MS want to be elders, but they are worse than Elder4 in their lack of reasoning and thinking skills.
Another congregation has 140+ publishers and 6 elders. Over the last decade they have talked to the branch about splitting the congregation, but they don't have enough elders and "strong" publishers. The MS become elders, the more experienced elders move away, the new elders get tired of dealing with so many publishers and eventually tire out or get removed. The PO is a brother that was reinstated, pioneered, appointed MS, then elder all within the last 10 years.
It isn't all bad from the WTS perspective. One congregation in the circuit has 9 elders, 7 MS, and 10 pioneers. Attending this congregation is like being in some weird, nightmarish state. The majority of the publishers talk about JW stuff all the time even away from the KH. On Saturdays they go out in early morning service, meet back at 9 a.m. and again at 1 p.m.; and regularly have large groups meet for Sunday service! I keep waiting for this congregation to hit it's peak and everyone suffer burnout, but they have kept this pace for years.
In the last 12 months I personally know of 4 elders (in a circuit of 1200) that have quit.
