Posts by searching4truth

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Anyone Ever Read The Four Agreements, A Toltec Wisdom Book?

by Good Girl or Bad Girl? in

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subtitle is "a practical guide to personal freedom" by don miguel ruiz .

i just started reading this book and it is amazing.

i have been underlining on every page things that i can personally relate to - and i must admit i'm not very far into it yet (page 25) but i felt a very strong urge to not only recommend it (i'll be back later to weigh in again once i start reading what the four agreements actually are/entail) but also ask if any here (oh my very dear friends on jwd) has read this book and what your personal thoughts are?.

searching4truth

this book seems awesome from what you have shared. I totally relate to your quotes. I want to go buy the book now. Thanx for sharing.

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PainFull!!

by OUTLAW in

i`ve been dealing with dub(jw)family i love..when i tell them whati know,it hurts them..but it`s true..there is no reason not to believe me..they do suffer "pain",when faced with the real truth..they begin to understand,why i am,who i am...outlaw

searching4truth

outlaw

..Sometimes it`s best to leave them where they are,but not always

I know your right but I also know how difficult its been for me and i would want to impact someone else like that unless they took the first steps on their own. It would be different if i had answers but i don't only questions. So I preffer to leave their illussion in place unless they start to remove it on their own then I will be there to help.

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Name Some JW "Double Standards"

by minimus in

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here's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).

searching4truth

yes welcome ms

How bout any worldly gathering with 1 person that over indulges with liquer is a testement to their ungodlyness.

At bethel for gilead grad lunch the whole place can get wasted and its a joyful celebration showing thanks to jehovah

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PainFull!!

by OUTLAW in

i`ve been dealing with dub(jw)family i love..when i tell them whati know,it hurts them..but it`s true..there is no reason not to believe me..they do suffer "pain",when faced with the real truth..they begin to understand,why i am,who i am...outlaw

searching4truth

i am of the opinion that if they want to know they will ask or look for themselves i wouldn't really want to be the one to take that from them

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The Loved Up Thread [Fluff]

by diamondblue1974 in

it might have escaped your notice but sirona and i are totally in love and seem to have a mutual appreciation society thing going on; however this has not taken place without causing some online problems as some of you might be aware.. both dawn (sirona) and i are conscious that we have hijacked a number of threads given our perpetual state of being loved up.

given the untold frustration we might have caused to some posters we have decided to launch our very own jwd loved up thread.. this hopefully should allow threads to go on being productive without the frustration of people (us) whispering online sweet nothings and flirting and we therefore invite you all to use this thread if you are loved up, have similar mutual appreciation societies or simply wish to flirt with other online posters.

you can even use this thread to dedicate a post to someone who isnt online and who just lightens your life and makes you smile.. please join us and reassure us that we are not the only loved up people on jwd.. .

searching4truth

you guys are all digusting i litterally had dry heeves at some points.

J/K congrats to you all. with all the crap i've been going through you still made laugh and I'm a little jealous. I'm happy for you all.

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Drinking (booze) among "Gods" people......More then ever now?

by new boy in

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looking back its amazing how many alcoholics i knew in the "borg"...................... there are 3 elders in my old hall alone........ that are full blown alcoholics...................... when, have you ever heard of someone.......anyone.......let alone and elder............ getting "dfed" for drinking too much?.

when i was at bethel........you wouldn't believe how much drinking was done there!.

there are stories of the old days ( russell & the judge)..where they would find guys passed out in front of the 124 building on sunday mornings........no big deal, just dust them off.............. and bring in.

searching4truth

at bethel on gilead grad lunch my table heads wife who normally was pretty reserved was almost falling out of her chair drunk and had to old herself up on me most of the time at one point falling asleep on my shoulder it was hilarrious

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lost

by depressed in

just wondering if anyone else feels the same way.. i've been out of the organization for about 4 years, but i still love jehovah and jesus, and i want to serve them the right way.

does anyone here feel a great sense of religious confusion now that you are not attending meetings?.

at the moment, i feel miserable, since i'm going through a divorce.

searching4truth

lost

i will add that even though its not a cure, i have found this place refreshingly comforting. In general the people here are incredibly kind and compassionate, much the opposite of what the wts wants everyone to believe about so called "apostates". Its very reassuring for me to know i am not alone. We all go through crap some worse than others. The people here seem to guinuinely care about each other and for that matter everyone so much more than dubs especially the elders who always seemed to have a hidden agenda.

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Thinking of getting reinstated? Read my story.

by Jez in

a lot has happened to me since march.

i have learned so much.

i hesitated to put this out in jwd, but i now think that if it helps one person, it will have been worth it.

searching4truth

just read this post and its very inciteful. sorry you had to endure it.

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Confessing to the elders...

by tan in

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has anyone ever had to confess their sins to the elders...left out some of the details or "other gross" sins...but wondered if you were truly forgiven of your sins?

or was reproved and given back your priviledges but knew that you didn't tell everything.

how did you feel afterward?

searching4truth

first time i held back some stuff and was publicly reproved. the second, five years later, i spilled it all every little detail they wanted and some they didn't and that time they df me go figure

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lost

by depressed in

just wondering if anyone else feels the same way.. i've been out of the organization for about 4 years, but i still love jehovah and jesus, and i want to serve them the right way.

does anyone here feel a great sense of religious confusion now that you are not attending meetings?.

at the moment, i feel miserable, since i'm going through a divorce.

searching4truth

I also started pioneering at 16 and i went to bethel at 19 (left when i was 21) was kinda the golden boy of my area then a few years back sort of fell off the deep end and got df a year and a half ago. started discussing some of the finer points of the org with a friend i grew up with and realized some things don't add up. Ended up sealing the deal with reading "Crisis of Conscience" which shed any remaining faith in the "slave" that lingered. Somewhere in there i managed to get married to a witness girl that had be newly reinstated and have had an extremely rocky marraige. Two weeks ago we seperated due to her unfaithfulness and since have discovered it wasn't the first time so i am currently struggling with the fact that i need to divorce her, even though i do love her she isn't going to change and i know it. all this and my family just keeps telling me go back to meetings and get reinstated and all will be better but they don't know my lack of faith in the org. But at the same time my natural instinct is to turn there since thats what i know, thats where i was raised. So I too feel lost not knowing where to turn. it keeps me up at night the uncertainty of where to turn. I so want to do the right thing spiritually but what is that. I sympathize with you. You are not alone