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  Is Atheism/Evolutionism Dangerous? Questions for Unbelievers

  by Perry in

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  2. beliefs

  does the belief that there is no all-loving diety in which to be accountable to make it easier or harder to treat and judge others they way that you want to be treated and judged?.

  since evolution supposes that life and ultimately man who is at the top of the chain got here through a process of the fittest dominating and killing off the weaker, and since most modern evolutionists in democracies no longer think that this is good to practice, how do you deal with the fact that you are a living contradiction of your own belief since you pronounce the same thing both good and bad?

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  Asheron

  Perry,

  Do you answer questions or are you just going to preach now as in your last response?

  Asheron
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  Poem/Eulogy for a Dog

  by Asheron in

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  i just read a poem written about a dog that had died.. .

  "in this life of thirteen years i have learned .

  there is no perfect ball, .

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  Asheron

  I just read a poem written about a dog that had died.

  "In this life of thirteen years I have learned…
  There is no perfect ball,
  There is no perfect stick,
  There is no perfect Master,
  But the ones I had were all good enough for me.
  
  And I am content,
  As I lay down to sleep ..."

  I want to die thinking that way.

  Asheron
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  Is Atheism/Evolutionism Dangerous? Questions for Unbelievers

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the belief that there is no all-loving diety in which to be accountable to make it easier or harder to treat and judge others they way that you want to be treated and judged?.

  since evolution supposes that life and ultimately man who is at the top of the chain got here through a process of the fittest dominating and killing off the weaker, and since most modern evolutionists in democracies no longer think that this is good to practice, how do you deal with the fact that you are a living contradiction of your own belief since you pronounce the same thing both good and bad?

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  Perry,

  I wish I had the benifit of your clarity in determining what is good and bad. Since you seem to think that there is some kind of "absolute" Good and Bad rule book somewhere can you please tell me if the actions of the following people were Good or Bad.

  Able commiting incest to populate the Earth. Good or Bad?

  God created Satan. Good or Bad?

  My uncle killed a man to save his wife and child from being murdered. Good or Bad?

  Of course specific morals, good actions and bad actions or Ethics are ever changing and are decided by the culture and times that events occur in. With that being said ,Is there a such thing as universal morality, that sufficiently philosophical humans have arrived at without any need for belief in the Christian God? The evidence seems to suggest that despite some minor variation and the shrill, bigoted objections of fundamentalists, there most certainly is. There are certain truths which really doappear to be "self-evident", and which philosophers have discussed for thousands of years in various places all over the world, reaching similar conclusions with or without Christianity. So is "universal morality" dependent upon faith in the Christian god? I dont think so.

  The world has many religions. If there is no morality without God, then should we believe that morality doesn't exist in any part of the world until it converts to Judaism or one of its offshoots? The ancient Chinese religious triumvirate of Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism wasn't based on Christianity. The Greeks had democracy, civilization, philosophy, and science long before Jesus was born. The Egyptians built a thriving civilization more than four thousand years ago. The Romans built an Empire without any help from Jesus or his God. Tribes and civilizations flourished throughout Africa, Australia, South America, North America, and islands all over the Pacific Ocean. All these places had different religions, different customs, different languages ... but most still shared certain moral concepts. Murder was considered immoral. Theft was considered immoral in all societies too large to function as tribal collectives. It was considered noble to help another, and contemptible to hurt others for the sake of personal gain. Honesty was praised. Deception and betrayal were vilified. Governments and gods didn't always obey these laws, but philosophers in all these places somehow found a way to come to similar conclusions. The question that fundamentalists ignore is: if morality flows from God and God alone, then how did this happen? Given the enormous differences in religious beliefs between all these cultures, how did people independently arrive at similar conclusions all over the world, with regard to murder, betrayal, theft, and altruism? Could there (gasp!) be a moral standard out there which doesn't require God?

  So where did "we" get these "universal morality" concepts. Are they programed into us? Are they REALLY self-evident. I say no to both. These "truths" have been arrived at through the oldest form of learning we have as smart animals. TRIAL and ERROR!! We have had thousands of years of human expieriance to try most every sort of interaction and to learn what works and what doesnt from a survival standpoint. In a word our moral system has EVOLVED along with us.

  Simply put:"Ethics are rules for a stable society and can be arrived at by observation and analysis of the results of behavior and predictions based on rules derived from experience."

  "A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death."- Albert Einstein, in an article which appeared in New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930.

  Asheron (the sinful Atheist)
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  What symbol or 'icon' would you choose to represent non-believers?

  by nicolaou in

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  christians have the cross, muslims the star & crescent, jews the star of david.

  so what sign do you think might best represent atheists and non-believers?

  i think i've made my own opinion quite clear for a while.. .

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  I believe the symbol below says it all.
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  Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast

  by nickols_k in

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  peace to you!.

  i've published the article: .

  this material makes understanding of revelation more clear and will help to be saved for many many people and will help to avoid terrible plagues for many other people!

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  Dave,

  Seriously...........Aliens 3 sucked.

  Asheron (Ripley Class)
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  Does anyone live on a warm Island or in the Keys?

  by Asheron in

  1. jw
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  every year about this time the wife and i have our yearly talk about selling everything and moving to a tropical location.

  we are getting more and more serious about this as the years go by.

  we have even made a financial plan.. one of the possible destinations are the caymans because of its openess to other nationalities.

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  Wow...thanks for all the advice. Who new that there were so many folks that considered/tried it on here.
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  Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast

  by nickols_k in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  peace to you!.

  i've published the article: .

  this material makes understanding of revelation more clear and will help to be saved for many many people and will help to avoid terrible plagues for many other people!

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  Thanks for clearing that up. That was concerning me. Did the Beast have anything to to with that Aliens 3 cause the plot was awful.... You would think that any self respecting Demon would influence a better script.

  Be bless

  Asheron
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  Has anyone had a dream that is so .......

  by Bumble Bee in

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  real that you don't believe it is a dream?

  i had a dream last night that was sooooooo real.

  i was experiencing something that i really didn't want to have to deal with.

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  I have them as well. Very disorienting and facinating. Imagine if you were alive 2000 years ago and had them as Im sure some people did. You wouldnt know what dreams were, had no idea about brain science and were drowning in mystical beliefs. And we wonder why there were so many fantastical stories written down through the ages. I am of the personal belief that many of the so called "visions" in the bible were a result of the belief that dreams were "god given". What else could one believe at the time?

  Asheron
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  Truth about 666, the beast and the seal of beast

  by nickols_k in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  peace to you!.

  i've published the article: .

  this material makes understanding of revelation more clear and will help to be saved for many many people and will help to avoid terrible plagues for many other people!

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  Asheron

  Welcome nickols_k

  I too have been to the afterlife and want to make glorious announce of the things I see there. High Five! So for the glory of Kazatstan and to make see easier the truths of the afterlife I too have made announce. I hope you like

  BEASTMAN . He was in the last Xman movie. He very much fur.
  IMAGE OF BEASTMAN is any picture of Beastman signed. You may find them on Ebay sometimes.
  MARK OF BEASTMAN . After sealing up appears imprint! This imprint has name - mark. It looks like squigily mark on picture.
  SEAL OF BEASTMAN . The beast has a pet seal. The Beastman trains it with a long pole.
  666 the area code of the Beast's phone. The full number is 666-345-9898. Please dont call after 7.
  FOREHEAD is above your eyebrows.
  NAME OF THE BEASTMAN . The beast has name,Fraiser, same as any creature who was created by Creator.
  NUMBER OF NAME OF THE BEAST oh my.
  HOST will seat you when your table is ready.
  ROD OF IRON SEXY TIME!!!!!!

  Asheron
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  Does anyone live on a warm Island or in the Keys?

  by Asheron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every year about this time the wife and i have our yearly talk about selling everything and moving to a tropical location.

  we are getting more and more serious about this as the years go by.

  we have even made a financial plan.. one of the possible destinations are the caymans because of its openess to other nationalities.

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  Asheron

  Every year about this time the Wife and I have our yearly talk about selling everything and moving to a tropical location. We are getting more and more serious about this as the years go by. We have even made a financial plan.

  One of the possible destinations are the Caymans because of its openess to other nationalities. Does anyone live in an area like this or has anyone made the jump?

  Asheron (of the "get me outta this cold class")