Posts by Dagney

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Just Curious About Something

by EmptyInside in

jw
friends

sorry,couldn't think of a better title for this post,without it being long.. i was thinking this morning,if ex-jws, who were born into the group less likely to join another religion after leaving.

vs. the witnesses who belonged to a church before joining the religion.. from my own prespective,being raised a witness,i have no intention of joining any religion.

and it seems that born-ins are less likely to join a religion after leaving the cult.. in my own experience,i think it's religious burn-out to tell the truth.

Dagney

I was thinking this morning,if ex-JWs, who were born into the group less likely to join another religion after leaving. vs. The Witnesses who belong a church before joining the religion.

This has proven true for me. I was open at first to attending another church. I thought about the big Xtian super churches, just couldn't bring myself to go. Drove by a inviting small Catholic church on my way to early morning walks...doors open, warm glowing lights at 6AM. Eventually my first step into a non JW church service would be in this Catholic church on a Xmas eve evening service, about 11PM, really just out of curiosity. It was lovely, peaceful, friendly, open.

The next year I went to the same service is a Unitarian church with some other exJW's. Same thing...warm, inviting, beautiful, friendly. As we were greeting by the robed priest (are they priests? dunno) I told him the "exJW contingent had arrived." He just laughed and shook our hands. I understand that church is attended by lots of scientists and atheists, JPL is a local employer in the area.

After being a JW for 45 years, I feel I have had enough "religion" for 10 lifetimes and have no interest in it at all. I found I don't need it...which was a surprise to me. I do like the tradition and formality of a celebration from time to time, funeral, wedding, Xmas eve...for some reason. I have no idea why.

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why Jehovah's witnesses? not yaweh witnesses?

by purrpurr in

this i never understood, the publications say that gods name translated from hebrew is yaweh.

why add a whole bunch of letters and vowels that change the sound of the name completely?

i've often thought surely we would gain greater respect on the ministry if we used a name that is historically and verbally accurate?.

Dagney

Judge Rutherford faced a divided kingdom. He needed a device to weld the "faithful" into solidarity before securing total power.

By re-interpreting the meaning of Romans 13:1,2 he turned the members into law-breakers, civil protestors and Supreme Court test cases to make a high profile name for his new religious BRAND.

The theology/Doctrines of Russell had been about the invisible PRESENCE since 1874 of Jesus Christ as King.

Rutherford got rid of that idea and substituted "Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom" and the Society's books began teaching

the purpose of JW's was VINDICATING (a legal process) by Witnessing in clearing JEHOVAH'S NAME which Satan had challenged in the Universal Court of Law.

By making a fetish out of the name "JEHOVAH" and branding his invention as Jehovah's Witnesses, Rutherford accomplished his mission.

^^^^^ This is a very insightful analysis of the matter.

JW's are told they are so very special...knowing/using "God's personal name." They have sadly and ignorantly prided themselves on this fact. Rutherford and subsequent WT leaders did not count on this "system" TM lasting as long as it has, and that even the common/lay person would have at their fingertips all the knowledge in universe.

For decades the faithful hung on every word as if it came from Jah himself...all this special knowledge...only few would have the time and resource to question anything...including "God's personal name." Now in an instant you have unlimited references and opinions to question everything. Rutherford just picked "Jehovah" to be different from the rest.

It is a new day for those who wish it so.

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Email CNN About Fredrick Mclean's Upcoming Appearance on "The Hunt" with John Walsh!

by BucketShopBill in

i am getting a nasty feeling john walsh is not going to mention the kingdom hall and the watchtower's scandalous conduct of covering up their hard working productive elder pedophiles!

the watchtower put more effort in protecting their pedophiles than helping victims of the crimes.

i know elders are instructed to call hq first because the watchtower needs to figure out how to avoid any responsibility and instruct the elders to avoid as much contact with victims while guiding the pedophile through his trials and dangers!

Dagney

Just saw the commercial for the show. Can't wait to see this.

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10 min meeting with all servants after the Tuesday meeting with CO

by Absalom in

jw
friends

is there anyone who is currently appointed who can tell me what this 10 min meeting with the co was about?

he made the announcement that he wants to meet with all appointed men right after the meeting..

Dagney

I've been gone for 13 years, but they do know I'm around. I wonder if any effort will be made to contact me. There hasn't been before. I figured they just threw away my card.

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JWs at the Edinburgh Festival

by passwordprotected in

my girlfriend and i took the train through to edinburgh to soak in the atmosphere and catch a few free comedy shows at the fringe festival.. almost immediately i spotted them; jw.org witnesses.. how did i know it was them?.

well, the middle-aged, tall man wearing the suit, shirt and tie was a big clue.

that and the fact that he was holding the hand of a similarly tall, middle-aged woman, dressed in the jw uniform of long skirt, blouse and light summer jacket.

Dagney

I had a similar experience last week. I went with current JW's to Hollywood Blvd for some sightseeing. HB was packed with tourists, a zoo. I saw two sets of trolleys. The first was planted on the busiest corner, Hollywood and Highland, where you almost tripped over them. It must be their instructions to get right there in the middle. Then we saw them later pushing the trolleys up and down the busiest block, right by Gruman's Chinese. They were right in the middle of all the characters in costume who are paid when they pose with tourist. The JW's I was with seemed really embarrassed. Of course they wouldn't say much around me. The whole charade spoke loudly enough as it was.

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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!

by Island Man in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.

Dagney

So ignorant. I say let them keep talking more and more.

Nothing like a corporation with ignorance at their moral core.

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Went with wife our on campaign, what a joke! Keep thinking, would Jesus had done this?

by goingthruthemotions in

what a joke the campaign is.....the sheeple are so blind.

what does this have to do with what jesus taught us to do.

i feel like i was campaigning for a politician.. next thing your going to see on the website is a donation button visible to all vistors without having to log in just bypass the middle man.

Dagney

it's a publishing company. The instructions are from a corporation whose only goal is remain in business.

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Why do JWs have this* on their FB pages now?

by Kudra in

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Dagney

Just wow.

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Question for active trolley publishers. Are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?

by KateWild in

if you actively do fs on a trolley i would love you to answer this question.

if you don't but know publishers that do can you ask them please.. are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?.

thanks kate xx.

Dagney

zed...done.

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Question for active trolley publishers. Are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?

by KateWild in

if you actively do fs on a trolley i would love you to answer this question.

if you don't but know publishers that do can you ask them please.. are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?.

thanks kate xx.

Dagney

Sooo....

Long story short, former JW friends came out to visit a still JW friend and decided (after 13 years) they'd love to see me. I had mixed feelings, but agreed to the visit which was a day touring the LA and Hollywood area. For breakfast we ended up at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles and right there on the corner was a literature trolley. The two attendees were very engaged in a discussion between themselves on a very crowded corner with people waiting to cross the street in various directions. Odd place IMO. The comments in the car were seemed like they were embrassed about this new form of witnessing.

So, later on a veryt hot and humid Hollywood Blvd, we see another. Right on the corner of Hollywood and Highland...prob the busiest corner of the street. People have to almost trip over them. Seems they fit right in with the Scientologist who also canvass the street passing out pamphlets. I turned to my group and said "your people!" We saw two groups of trolleys pushing the carts up and down Hollywood Blvd.

At the same time there was a group of a dozen, elderly, Christian evangelists (possibly Korean) with signs and singing hymms...and a Michael Jackson impersonator right next to them. I have a 14 second video but I don't know how to post it.

Anyhoo...wow. These trolleys are right there in the middle of it.