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  Are people really happy at Bethel?

  by The Searcher in

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  if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.

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  Dagney

  This song has been used in amateur videos by many.  

  I think, as was brought out, this is a reinvented WBTS, geared to try and keep the youth (a la LDS), as the older ones die off.  And of course the plan is for this to go viral on youtube and wherever so as many people as possible will see it...including "worldly."  Everything is exposed today including confidential BOE letters.  Of course they anticipate this video to spread...I'm sure to combat the negativity out there about JW's.

  It's a new day at the "house of god."
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  Counting service time in a creative way

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

  i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

  they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

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  Dagney

  100%.  For decades we all knew the tricks to "start our time."  

  I've heard in some rural areas they start with a "roll by", drive to the territory and count the time stopping for lunch if they share the "good new" with the waitress.  And they feel quite holy about the whole thing as they shun their relatives.

  You can't blame them...they are told over and over again to get and keep their numbers up to qualify for the pet tiger.
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  Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

  by Pubsinger in

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  2. beliefs

  apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

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  Dagney

  What I hate most is when I hear that song I'll think of Bethelites dancing around in the video.

  On a side note, I think there are many people genuinely happy as JW's.  It's the "volunteer" glow when you think you are saving the world being part of a group.  I had former friends who would bemoan so many things as missionaries...but there they are singing songs and working on projects happy dappy as can be.  We spent hours in the past discussing the problems with the organization.  I think the new jw.org has infused many with hope that their years are not wasted.  Doesn't mean they are 100% convinced, but the feel good glow is there.  When you are in that little circle, reality seems a million miles away.

  
  
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Dagney

  I was already on the "I think they are full of s**t" road since 1995, but then saw "Dateline" and knew Barbara Anderson was the real deal.  So she was my first apostate I was influenced by.

  On the internet, Randy Watters with the scary website with the eyeball...so dangerous!

  Read Ray Franz's experience online and finally understood what happened back there in the 80's.  

  Read Penton's and Carl Jonsson's books after I stopped going, and would say they just confirmed everything I had been feeling for years and years.

  
  
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  San Luis Obispo

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2015/01/22/3455063_steven-lindhorst-paso-robles-arrest.html?rh=1.

  anyone know this guy?

  reddit user tricky_business says the guy is an active witness.. .

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  Dagney

  Eeewww.
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  If you live near the Bowers Museum, Santa Ana, California, you may like to visit this exhibition

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. current

  in 1986, workman near the chinese city of chengdu (in sichuan province) dug up some 200 relics of an unknown civilisation:.

  the bronze castings showed a high level of technical skill, but interestingly there was also this:.

  elephants in china, and important to the elite that ordered the fabrication of the masks, some obviously large enough to be fitted to an elephant's head?

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  Dagney

  Yes, I just went to this exhibit about a month ago.  I went with my newly exited JW gf.  We decided to do something interesting during former meeting times and while her husband was at the meetings.  

  This exhibit is amazing.  The faces of the statues do not look typical.  Some look like totems from the NW.  The docent said they are very similar to Mayan, but no matter how hard they tried, they could not come up with a connection.  Also, they have not been able to locate  the foundry for all the bronze works or wheels.  They know nothing about these people.   

  
  

  And isn't this guy magnificent!  He is tall.

  

  Really great exhibit.  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  San Luis Obispo

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2015/01/22/3455063_steven-lindhorst-paso-robles-arrest.html?rh=1.

  anyone know this guy?

  reddit user tricky_business says the guy is an active witness.. .

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  Dagney

  There are quite a few exJW's here and out and about from that area.  Hope they see this thread so they can comment.

  
  
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  Special pioneer stipend

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  how much do they get for their 120 hours of door banging?

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  Dagney

  About 10 years ago a widowed CO's wife came to our hall and was given SP status and a stipend.  I don't remember exactly, but it seems it was about $300-400...not enough to live on.  And cost of living is high around here.  I remember looking for places to rent with her and trying to figure out odd jobs where she could bring in a bit of money.  
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  Good Netflix shows to watch

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  in the long winter nights you need some good tv shows to watch while you wait for the eternity between seasons of game of thrones.. we've watched marco polo (pretty good) and have just started watching orange is the new black which is not at all what i imagined (didn't know it was funny!).

  house of cards is on the list too as we've heard good things about that.. anyone have any others that are worth seeing?.

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  Dagney

  I see "The Fall" was mentioned.  It was recommended to me a few weeks ago and binged watched it while working on year end paperwork.  Good series.  
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  Clever/snappy comeback for "you're an apostate"

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm looking for some clever comebacks.

  i really don't care that i am an apostate, but would like to deliver a quick comeback or two to perhaps make the other person think.

  any suggestions most welcome.

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  Dagney

  Last night I was annoyed.

  Today I'm p*ssed.  Not for me so much anymore, but any damage to my newly exited friend's relationships....I will get REALLY p*ssed.  Nobody needs that hassle...and from somebody we haven't talked to in 30 years.  The nerve!

  @3rdgen= I said something similar to my brother (COBE/elder), "I don't follow men."  He didn't say one word.  He knows.