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  Abusing the power of tears. Yet another sign of desperation

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. bible

  so i was seating at the meeting this past sunday.

  the latest wt article to be studied speaks of "using our imagination" to think about the blessings of the kingdom.

  the whole study was centered around how we can, and should, spent time visualizing ourselves in the new world, working along with our brothers.

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  Dagney

  They have to now play the emotion card. They didn't have to in the past because the ministry was more fruitful/rewarding. The field is dry and not interested in the least and they've had to evolve that effort to keep people somehow linked into their concept of preaching. But it is not personally rewarding standing by a trolley only talking to your mate.

  Personal knowledge of doctrine and the Bible is downplayed and obedience is all that is required, The "carrot" of the paradise is really strong and the only thing they really have to offer.
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  In case you haven't heard this, here's the link to "It's the Hard Knock Life" - JW Version

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ale8iq3vcw.

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  it's the hard knock life - jehovah's witness version.

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  Dagney

  LOL, that's great!
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  Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

  by WildeLover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

  i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

  it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

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  Dagney

  The WBTS is a corporation. All decisions are made to keep the corporation alive. There will always be faithful followers who need the religion and will help keep it alive with their work and money. They will make whatever investments necessary at the congregation level to keep the corporation going, acquire or sell...they are all business decisions.

  They don't care about the preaching work. They know and have said it is completed. Now it is how do they keep it going with the least expense and keep the facade of importance to the faithful. They should have let go of the massive printing of the magazines 20 years ago...that was a long time coming and it was the old GB that didn't want the "work" to change.
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  Who oversees the money for the WT?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when the wt sells property for a billion dollars profit, who decides what that money is going to be used for?.

  when all the money comes in from all the kingdom halls bank accounts worldwide, did all that money go into one big account and who has authority to spend it and cut some checks to whoever?

  when all the monthly donations come in to the watchtower headquarters, who decides distribution, and to who?

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  Dagney

  You might try:

  http://www.ptindirectory.com/tax-preparers/new-york/brooklyn-ny/858853/gerald-f-simonis-cpa/gerald-f-simonis-cpa

  I bet it's hard to get an appointment with him if you want to get your taxes done because he is the Secretary of the WBTS.
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  Gerald Garner (AKA Goldberg) - Dr. Ron Lapin's Lawyer

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have posted this information on another thread, but i think it is important enough to have its own thread.. i have been doing research into the roots of "bloodless medicine" and naturally, the "bloodless surgeon" ron lapin that the jws hail as a hero, has come under my scrutiny.

  this post concerns the lawyer gerald garner, who represented ron lapin during the 80s and 90s when lapin was being investigated for dangerous medical practices, and for being too eager to slice open patients by burning them with a cauterizing knife.

  garner was received to the new york bar in 1961, and was suspended in new york in 1984 for his role in an adoption proceeding.

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  Dagney

  Well this was interesting. Coast Medical was a BIG deal here back in the day 1980's, I'm from Orange Co. A former JW doctor friend from Sweden became friends with Dr. Lapin and the staff there and told me stories of lavish lunches and dinners at the expense of the medical center. That didn't set well with him or me.

  Something seemed amiss with that place, although at the time it seemed like a "provision from Jah" that we now had a place that would perform bloodless surgery. I remember attending seminars at hotels put on by the medical center regarding bloodless surgery. I do know a sister who had a bloodless surgery from Dr. Lapin who eventually passed, and we always wondered about it...my gf would remember more. I do remember Dr. Lapin had lots of issues, then again, doctors tend to. His lawyer was a piece of work I guess.

  Strange times it was.
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  The generation change in 1995 was HUGE for me...it was the beginning of the end. I knew right then and there they were fo sho making everything up and that they were going to start a series of "adjustments" to explain the non-fulfillment of, well...everything they say.

  My former friends and elders just shrugged their shoulders about it. Most are still in and making fun of the "overlapping" explanation. The jokes on them.
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  Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

  i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

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  Dagney

  There are not enough words to describe this POS. Bill Mayer said 20+ years ago a young female comedian friend of his told him the same story. She was poor, knew she would not be believed going up against a popular and beloved superstar, and moved on. This guy is the real deal and needs to go to prison.
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  Just found out my older brother has passed away

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just found out that my brother (who was one of a bunch that shared this login) has died.. he and his wife were living in another country where they once pioneered.

  i didn't see him that often.. such an empty feeling.....

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  Dagney

  So very sorry for your loss.
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  Waiting For The "Real Life"...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how many times did we have to hear this?

  just another way to make you feel guilty for wanting to spend time improving yourself or enjoying life outside the organization.

  to think of all the people that died waiting for the "real life" that is not coming is actually very sad and depressing.

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  Dagney

  It's so sad. But they don't feel sad and it's their choice to believe in a fantasy sold to them by the Wizard spinning the wheels of the machine.

  If the believers wanted the normal things bad enough they would pursue them. That's the sad truth also. It is easier and less painful to stay.
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  Candace settled and she deserves the peace.

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?".

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  Dagney

  To me part of the win with Candace's case is the spotlight aimed at the WBTS which reveals their motives, something rarely seen. They hide behind the Wizard's curtain appearing to be good. But in the end, the defense of the corporation is to protect itself at all costs, including the disregard for the victimization of a child.

  No one will be signing up to be one of JW's if they have ever read any of the court transcripts. That's a victory.

  The lack of concern, empathy, sympathy for abuse victims is appalling to the normal human being. It is not for somebody in a cult. Nor is it unusual for 8 million JW's who gleefully anticipate the destruction of 9 billion human beings so they can have a swiss chalet over looking a vineyard populated with their own pet lion and panda bear.

  The joke is on them, the poor saps...loyal to a fantasy.

  Oh no, Candace won BIG time...as will ALL the others that follow. Money is important, but not as important as the truth coming out about this vile corporation. Nobody in their right mind would ever want to be a JW. Nobody with children should EVER be a JW.