Posts by Dagney

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What’s the deal with all the Smart-Educated JWs?

by John Aquila in

we talk a lot about most jws being uneducated, uninformed, and that they lack critical thinking skills, but in my area there is a lot of jws that went to the university, medical school, law school, and came back to the organization.

in my circuit, that i know of, we had two electrical engineers, one computer engineer with a ph.d. eight teachers with a bachelors degree and three of those with a masters in education.

we had two medical doctors, one was a pediatrician who closed his business about 3 years ago and went to bethel.

Dagney

I don't get it either.

They must have cognitive dissonance. They keep one foot in their career which is far more interesting than anything JW. Yet all those hours spent at those meetings...week after week and year after year...how do they do it?

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

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none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

Dagney

I am so sorry for your loss. Losing mom is a big thing.

JW's have such a disconnect with the feelings of others, and just what it means to be a decent human being. Such disrespect for a fellow human, it blows my mind every time.

Wishing you peace and comfort.

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

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i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

Dagney

Oh no. Peace and comfort to you and yours.

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

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i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

Dagney

Wow! That is wonderful news!

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Letter from Brazilian Branch: Buildings

by TheTruthBR in

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this letter will be read in all the congregations of brazil on the service meeting this week.

(google translation - original available)originala todas as congregacoesprezados irmaos:nao ha duvida de que jeova tem abencoado ricamente seu povo no mundo inteiro.

isso fica evidenteno aumento do numero de publicadores e no notavel progresso espiritual de nossa organizacao.

Dagney

In the past, Jesus' disciples were also given an assignment that tested their faith. To remind
them that occasion, Jesus asked: "When we sent you without purse, no provisions bag and without
sandals, did lacked something "they said," No! "(Luke 22:35.) Surely Jehovah
will act the same way today with those who put Kingdom interests first
in life. At the same time, we trust that Jehovah will continue to provide the necessary for his work, as well
as he has done so far.

Erm..."Jehober" didn't "act." People who worked and had resources to give acted. I always have to remind JW's about that.

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

Dagney

^^^^ makes me sad. I know it's their choice, but still a little sad.

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How will many JW's react ?

by Phizzy in

i did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.

usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.

but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.

Dagney

I think the zealots and elderly will blindly go along with the explanations of the WT.

There is a group of young adults, I hear, that treat the org like a church. They create lives outside the org for themselves and their kids. So they may not give too much attention to the issues.

There is for sure a large group with cognitive dissonance, that are in deep in with family and theocratic responsibilities, that are going through the motions but deep down inside they now it's all BS. They have to save face and keep up the game.

These new changes with the focus on the preaching work is an attempt to rally the troops. Ugh, I can't stand this manipulative cult.

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

Dagney

Agreed.

I know a lot of the assholes who ran the RBC and the assembly hall build in my area. These were almost uniformly low-level grunts who maybe took a CAD or project management class or two and worked at the very lowest levels of construction/engineering firms. Yet they acted like they were gods among men when around their fellow believers.

I "still" have a friend who is a state building inspector. RBC called him in to review the assembly hall project. He told them what to do and they brushed him off and did it their way. It was disrespectful and a waste of time for him. And of course, he can't get over it. **sigh**

I've always thought the RBC, quick builds and the like was a nice idea in theory, but worried in the long run how it would pan out.

Since the "end" hasn't come, the WBTS is scrambling to make changes they should have made years ago. They can put lipstick on the pig, but it's still a pig.

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

Dagney

I think this is key.

They may be worrying more about what will happen in the next couple of years than how bad things are right now.

And it sounds like the construction is costing way more than anticipated. I have heard at a local level the flubs by the RBC and costly errors and pride. Rework that cost tens of thousands to correct due to poor decision making. Jah isn't doing a very good job at directing "his organization."

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

Dagney

With WBTS, it's only and always about the money. The changes in the excess of printing should have happened 20 if not 30 years ago..what a waste of time and money while thousands of magazines and books languished in closets and basements. Consolidated meeting materials makes perfect sense. I thought they should lose the WAT and AW for FS and just print a quarterly brochure and effectively cover their territory using those.

Revamping the meetings, (although not really), was a savvy attempt to keep the attendance numbers up to "all 5 meetings." Fewer qualified elders to oversee the school is a situation in my area. Using MS's to conduct 2nd school, very little participation...the TMS just isn't what it used to be...again in my area. It needed a huge change and it makes sense what they did, I think.

The biggest outlay of cash is the monthly support of the full time workers, Bethel/missionaries/DO's etc. It only makes sense to revamp and reduce that expense. Now they don't rely on flexible donations but debit the congregations for a set amount, that was smart. Selling their prime real estate at the top of the market, creating their own bunkers makes sense to me.

The court settlements and losses, and the cost of litigation, those are things they out of their control and they must budget for it. It already looks like they are moving money around to show how "poor" they are. Believe me, they have expert advisers in regards to their finances. They are a corporation, and a corporation only makes decisions to keep itself in existence.

I could be very very wrong, but I think the WBTS coffers are full. The RBC was a brilliant money making scam. But, they have to change they way they were doing business. The stipends that went out for thousands of full time workers are now going to at least some victims of abuse. That's a pleasant thought.

It's also a pleasant thought that their master revamp building program is on hold. That is very interesting. It's all very interesting.