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  Consolidation of Bethel Big-Wigs Now?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.

  anyone else aware of this?.

  during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..

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  Dagney

  I past this on to his cousin who is a friend of mine. She is going to ask around the family.
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  Older JW: not happy

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.

  did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.

  had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.

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  Dagney

  I can only imagine how they feel. I feel a little sad for them, but realize also it was their choice to hang on to the dream of the pet tiger.

  I think for many it is social and a routine. With so many years in the routine, they haven't developed any outside interests, so they would be lost without it. My mother needed this religion, sadly. I'm sure they are tired and don't want to think about it.

  I'm in the next generation down...I'm amazed why so many are still in. But then again, they taught their families this dogma...now what? I did go down the rabbit hole one day last week on FB and looked at some of the old gang. Honestly, they looked happy and were having fun I guess, even if it was at an RC, LOL.

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  Do You Know Any “Gay” Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?

  i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.

  they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..

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  Dagney

  Sure do. Some crazy stories out there. One professed to be of the "young" anointed, got DF'd, reinstated, and other details I don't wish to go into. I had heard he had said our very strict PO was a closet gay, which explains so much.

  Then I had a best friend, reg pio, eventually came out, moved away, convinced by an elder that called at his door to come back. He came back only to be DF'd. Another committee meeting I anguished over the outcome. We said good-bye too many times, tears right now. Eventually reinstated, got sick, passed away and there is not a day that goes by that I don't think of him.

  I tried to save him one time with my stack of bound volumes. Instead he helped me overcome the years of JW thinking on the matter, and taught me how to love the person and lose the judgment.
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  JW story - "husbands JW beliefs ruining the family" - on Dr. Phil today

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "my husbands religious beliefs are ruining our family" is the topic.

  i"m not home when it airs on cbs in the afternoon so i watch a rerun on ch 55 here in nyc at 8pm.

  i have my cable box all set to switch over at the appropriate time..

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  Dagney

  Welp. That was an interesting watch.

  It's a hot mess. I hope there is some help for the kids sakes.
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  E cart witnessing on our way to see Shen Yun in San Francisco

  by cha ching in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today, i took the day off to go with my husband to san francisco on bart to see shen yun.

  coming out of the station, were two elders at a watchtower cart!

  my husband loves to witness to them.. started off with a smile and they smiled back and he told them he had been associated with jehovah's witnesses and now he is not but he wishes to tell them that even though they are going to hear things that are upsetting in the news, there is life after jehovah's witnesses.. they smiled and asked him if they could ask what religion he has gone to, or what he is doing now.

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  Dagney

  cha ching...you are so cheeky and mysterious! lol

  I'm still figuring out what I want to say to the cart people.
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  Did man really go to the moon?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

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  Dagney

  He says "I would go to the moon in a nanosecond,the problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore....we used to but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again"

  Are. You. Kidding. Me.

  He should try getting out of the house and going to visit JPL or any of the NASA facilities. I went to JPL (with another exJW that worked there), when they were finalizing the testing of Curiosity. These scientist are amazing in what they are doing.

  Pfft.
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  JW's on my front sidewalk

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.

  we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.

  i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.

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  Dagney

  Nice.

  I would like to chat with some JW's I don't know for a change. Need to land on something short and sweet that might make them think.

  I told my brother (elder) "I do not put my faith in men" staring straight into his eyes. He got my point, as he had tried to bring up the FDS/channel. He didn't say a word. I feel like trying that out again on some unsuspecting JW's.

  Failed predictions/prophecies. New light/adjustments doesn't cut it. God doesn't give wrong information. The god thing is for their benefit, throwing it in there.

  The ARC videos are one of the most compelling things to watch. If only they would.

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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  Dagney

  cha ching

  1995 generation change was the "come to Jesus" moment for me. It was confirmation for so many niggles through the years that they were just making everything up as they went along...totally winging it.

  During a Sunday meeting in 2001, I felt like I was on the outside looking in on the comments in the WT study. All of a sudden I felt like I didn't belong there, I didn't agree with what they were saying, I didn't want to teach what they were saying etc. I left and never went back.

  The generation, counting of hours/measurement of spirituality, DF'ing, crazy year calculations that are supposed to mean something but mean nothing, dishonest out of context use of verses and third party quotes were the issues at the top of my list. One day I just said "I'm done."
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  Work Colleague Went To a JW Funeral - His Experience

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the guy in my office on the desk next to me has just got back from the funeral of his wifes sister.

  this was his first time in a kh and full on exposure to jwdom.. bit of background: the deceased jw was not a born in, she was a convert when she was in her teens.

  she died last week at the age of 82. the poor old dear was still zealously knocking on doors while in ill health.

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  Dagney

  Interesting comments. That's a first to hear passing out literature AT the funeral...but not surprising in the least.

  JW funerals are just the worst.
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  JW's subject to first episode of Leah Remini's returning investigative show

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/leah-remini-returning-to-ae-to-investigate-other-cult-like-religions/ .

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  Dagney

  https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/leah-remini-returning-to-ae-to-investigate-other-cult-like-religions/