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  Want to read the Montana Nunez v. Watchtower Trial Transcript? It's now available to read

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the trial transcript of nunez v. watchtower (426 pages) has been made available from scaars which is the acronym for a new a 501(c)(4) lobbying corporation, sexual child abuse - advocates for reform and safety (scaars).. .

  the scaars corporation was formed october 3, 2018 by barbara anderson and former elder, roger bentley and his wife, karin.

  on the home page of the scaars website, scaars.org, you will find information that explains the goal of the movement - scaars: "changing laws - changing lives.".

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  Dagney

  Thank you Barbara, Joe, Karin and Roger! I'm about 3/4 through and have to stop even though I want to keep going.

  Thank you all for all you do.
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  My JW-Related Musical Experiences

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  looking back over my life, the only thing that i can say i truly enjoyed as a jw was meeting and becoming friends with a number of jws who were fine musicians and had experienced various measures of success in what used to be called the "music business.

  tommy reynolds, from the vocal group hamilton, joe frank & reynolds ("don't pull your love out on me, baby" and "baby, baby, fallin' in love, i'm fallin' in love again") recruited me to play drums in his dallas circuit assembly orchestra in the 1970s.

  in 1977, i became friends with legendary jazz composer/arranger/band leader benny golson, whose life story appeared in the oct. 8, 1980 awake, and who appeared opposite tom hanks in steven spielberg's "the terminal.

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  Dagney

  Great read Roger. Looking forward to more be it here or otherwise.

  I’m in the LA area and seeing the Phil and Tina band, Crusaders, and others perform was a usual activity, and fun. Wilton lived in my city for years and was on the speakers list and such a sweet man.

  Hope to hear more. Thanks for sharing!
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  Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?

  are they now infrequent lurkers?.

  did they go back to the watchtower?.

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  Dagney

  Crumpet, Mary and Englishman are alive and well on FB.
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  The Reasons for Cart Witnessing

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.

  the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.

  now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.

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  Dagney

  Oh it's brilliant.

  And they sell it as a privilege to be able to use a cart. The org can keep the "preaching" hours up for the stats, adherents can finally be excited about the "ministry" (not) again...win win all around!

  It's pretty swell.
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  First time here - My Story (Spousal Abuse)

  by Centaurus A in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, this is my first time here and only in the last 2 weeks have my eyes been opened.

  still trying to take in all this new info.

  anyways here is my very condensed story:.

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  Dagney

  Welcome Welcome Centaurus! Thank you for sharing your story. I’m so happy for you and your kids in your new life. There will be challenges, but the freedom to live on your own terms and give your kids options to live and be who they should be is worth it.

  Cheers! 🥂❤️
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  Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

  by SuperGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

  i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

  the religion has become a nut house.

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  Dagney

  Welcome Welcome SuperGirl! Thank you for sharing your story. Glad you were able to "see the light" quickly.

  And Welcome to you and your son and ex, to the rest of your life with freedom of thought. The price is rather dear, but so rewarding.
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  Did You Feel That You Were Being Controlled WHILE You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never fully realized it until i was just about out.

  i adopted the attitude that “if mother says so, mother knows best!”.

  it took me a long time to conclude they were actually a cult.

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  Dagney

  I had to think for a minute about this question. I don't think I felt controlled while I was in, but I clearly was. I was duped to think I had "free will," which I clearly did not.

  Cult mentality. sigh
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  Faders Needing a Great One Liner

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so our family fade is well under way.

  we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

  we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

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  Dagney

  What has worked for me is to have some responses ready at the quick. In the beginning I wanted to protect my relationship with my elderly JW mother at any cost. I didn't want any judicial action that would cause her more grief than she already felt.

  That is no longer an issue. When someone asks "are you still in XXX?" I say, I'm not attending meetings at the moment." They usually change the subject, or tell me about a relative that did the same thing.

  I respond as positive and happy as I can at the moment and redirect the conversation to be about them, their work/family/car...anything. That always works.

  When they tell me they just got back from RC/SAD whatever, I always say "that's GREAT! How's your wife/kids/car whatever."

  And if a former friend dug a little deeper, I've said this:

  "I have no issues with elders or anybody. I do have issues with the corporation. And it's between me and Jehovah and I have taken it to him in prayer." This stopped any further discussion. They are not stupid.
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  2018 Service Year Report

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any word on what the results are for the 2018 service year report?.

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  Dagney

  My "elder" brother keeps a spreadsheet on the statistics for all the years. Years ago he talked about the missing information for some of the years.

  I wonder if he will wonder about the current info he will be filling in. Or will cognitive dissonance kick in....
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  What do the Angels do?

  by LovingLifeNow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so what exactly have they been doing now , with the exception of intervening thousands of years ago, what exactly do they do in heaven?

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  Dagney

  They help people win football games and Oscars.