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  Cart Witnessing....They deserve the same ''cold shoulder''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  here is a man named jerry.

  on a public sidewalk, he asks attendees leaving a jehovah's witness convention in san diego a simple question, ''do jehovah's witnesses have the truth.

  not one person acknowledges him.

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  Dagney

  That picture is great...but...has anybody here actually seen any cart sitters deep in conversation or even engaging at all with any passerbys?

  I haven't.
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  Besides Everlasting Life What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Offer To Anyone?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i have been thinking... why would anyone want to join the religion or actually stay in the organization.

  i understand that people don’t want to lose their loving family and dear friends so some stay in.

  but what does anyone really ever get because they are jehovah’s witnesses??.

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  Dagney

  It would be interesting to know from a recent convert what it was that drew them to the JW.

  I used to pray that I was thankful I was born in because I never would have believed it if I wasn't. sigh

  My mom said they answered everything from the Bible and that was the attraction to her. Of course we here all know differently, it's a patchwork hop and skip to come up with their dogma. But, there was a time it sort of made sense, all the hopping and skipping.
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  Generally Speaking Do You Support The Police?

  by minimus in

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  i know bad cops exist in many cities.

  i know some cops who aren’t “bad” but do have an attitude.

  however, i prefer to have law and order as opposed to chaos.

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  Dagney

  Absolutely!
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  Revised New Jerusalem Bible

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  following are three excerpts from wikipedia; liturgy.co.nz; & https://newworldtranslation.blogspot.com/2018/05/an-overview-of-revised-new-jerusalem.html hopefully, this will give you an idea of the latest translation effort of the jb.. wikipedia notes: the revised new jerusalem bible (rnjb) is an english translation of the bible published by darton, longman & todd.

  the new testament and the psalms,[1] were released in february 2018,[2] with the full bible released in july 2019.

  [3] it is a revision of the jerusalem bible and the new jerusalem bible done by the british biblical scholar and ampleforth abbey monk henry wansbrough.

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  Dagney

  I used the NJB exclusively the last few years at the meetings. It’s a great bible with timelines, and copious footnotes, and introductions and commentary so you could figure out what the heck was going on.
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  The real dividing line isn’t between apostates and apologists it’s between...

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  excellent observation from zizek about communist regimes: they didn’t care if people accepted the ideology or took it seriously, so long as people acted as if the ideology was true, that was the important thing.

  in fact the regimes were deeply suspicious people who took the ideology too seriously.

  people who took the ideology seriously were dangerous because they were prone to noticing the inconsistencies and flaws in the system.

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  Dagney

  OP is spot on Slim, and so well written.

  This:

  They don’t care about 1914 or the divine name or whatever else. They think the anointed 144,000/generation/partakers issues are a problem, but they figure that it will sort itself out in the end.

  The days of defending the "truth" are over for the R & F JW. They see inconsistencies but are thrilled to point all to jw.org and not have to ever explain a damn thing ever again. (2,520 year explanation comes to mind...) They just want to go to the hall, socialize with friends, travel and count time/pioneer by standing next to a cart.

  For those that have done extensive research and have maintained their JW belief system, I would say it's just a matter of faith. They choose to believe. Theologians have been debating the same word/issues for years and are wise enough to offer up a theory, because absolutes in history cannot truly be proven. Faith is what you need to follow a religion and its ever changing dogma.

  Thanks for posting Slim!
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  JWs reach new milestone - JW.org reaches 1,000 languages

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  below is the copied page found in jw.org from nov. 4, 2019:.

  the governing body is pleased to announce that a new milestone has been reached in our efforts to make disciples of people of all the nations.

  jw.org now has articles, videos, and audio content available in 1,000 languages, including 100 sign languages..

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  Dagney

  They are trying hard to keep the faithful believing this "life saving" work is relevant. It's like their "wow we are so special we now translate into 1,000 languages" fact as they stand idly by their literature trolley.

  Busy work with little results, thankfully.
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  Mark Stephen Lett Raps about Murmuring and Other Urgent Jehovah's Witness Issues

  by BottleGate_ in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1-vnsbp7c.

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  Dagney

  That was HILARIOUS! Thanks for posting.
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  Did You Ever Get Hit On By An Elder?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  the organization stresses to elders to be careful with members of the opposite sex.

  never be alone with a sister whether it be in field service or paying a visit by means of a shepherding call.

  do you know of any elders that flirted or were overly “touchy” with females?

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  Dagney

  Oh yes.

  One turned into a relationship, I was still in high school and he was married, 13 years my senior. I came to grips with the affect on me during the 90's when there was focus on these issues via the media, talk shows, Anita Hill etc. I pushed it way down for years, but i realize afterward it profoundly affected me and my relationships.

  At one point I said we needed to talk to the brothers, and he agreed but we never did. I told several people including an elder friend many cities away. That was during the time when you could sort of self counsel. He told me to move on if I wasn't in love or seeking a relationship, which I wasn't. So I moved on.

  I don't think it's unusual.
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  How Does It Make You Feel Kids?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent printable kids activity asks kids to describe their feelings when marketing various jwdotorg products:.

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  meanwhile, here's a recent public post from harvest inn's social media profile:.

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  Dagney

  Written exactly by people who don't have kids and don't have a clue how to talk to them. IMHO

  That would be torture IMO to go through that questioning.
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  Did You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Were Typically “Racists”?

  by minimus in

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  i was a jw from infancy.

  we had a melting pot type of congregation.

  i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.

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  Dagney

  Interesting thread. Growing up in Southern California in the 60's, everywhere including the KH was racially diverse. So I don't know anything different. Hispanics, Japanese, black, white made up grade school through high school and the congregation. As a kid we were all friends. It would be interesting to know if there was any racism felt.

  I loved the fact as I would run into the older sisters at conventions as a 50+ year old, they would pull me to their chest and still call me "baby girl." But who knows what they and their husbands and kids went through with others at the hall...

  I wish I could still talk to some of them, but being "out" makes it too complicated.