by minimus 23 Replies latest jw friends
The Organization stresses to elders to be careful with members of the opposite sex. Never be alone with a sister whether it be in field service or paying a visit by means of a shepherding call.
Do you know of any elders that flirted or were overly “touchy” with females?
By the way, I knew of a prominent elder who later became a Circuit Overseer who was strongly counseled because of his weird touchy feely contact with younger boys. He always had a group of young teen boys around him.👨👨👦👨👦👦
One invited my now wife to spend a weekend at his cabin, just the 2 of them. He later pretty much paralleled david and bathsheba story.
There were several she mentioned who were acting as more than just friends but didnt cross any boundaries. She was extremely good looking in her youth
Oh yes.
One turned into a relationship, I was still in high school and he was married, 13 years my senior. I came to grips with the affect on me during the 90's when there was focus on these issues via the media, talk shows, Anita Hill etc. I pushed it way down for years, but i realize afterward it profoundly affected me and my relationships.
At one point I said we needed to talk to the brothers, and he agreed but we never did. I told several people including an elder friend many cities away. That was during the time when you could sort of self counsel. He told me to move on if I wasn't in love or seeking a relationship, which I wasn't. So I moved on.
I don't think it's unusual.
I had two elders who were touchy feeley with me. One when I was single, the other when I was married. I broke one's finger (looked like he had an accident, not attributable to me), the other was told if he touched me again, I would break his finger; he stayed far away from me after that. I told my husband after we stopped attending meetings about that one, I did not want him to knock him out.
It is good not to be a confidant of some sad unhappy married man or woman. It never ends well.
There was a CO here that had active hands. If you payed attention, you would see that he went from one sister to the next with roaming hands. I mentioned it to my wife, who was one he was fond of, and she poo-pooed the idea, saying that he was just grandfatherly. But she did start to keep her distance after that.
Elders often tried, sometime succeeded to assign themselves to work, often alone with sister waton, a trophy wife.
Did not one of the founders, Russel or Rutherford, ruthless womannizer, say: "-- i am just like a butterfly, going from flower to flower!--"
Yes...my Watchtower Farms roommate! When I asked for a room change because of this, the whole affair was turned around on me by the Home Servant Frank Lewis. After this, the Bethel rumor mill began to destroy my reputation. Funny thing was that eventually my room mate was disfellowshipped years later for 'conduct unbecoming a Christian'. Fuck Frank Lewis and Fuck Bob Fischer.
No, but when I was an elder I got hit on by quite a few sisters even though I was married.
Some 'days of our lives' stories here - I recall a couple of elders' wives telling me they didn't trust a particular sister around their husbands. I laughed (didn't say anything) but from what this particular, older, sister, had told me she was into much younger bros. few yrs. out of high school and friends of her son. She told me they'd flirt with and go out of there way to talk, stand a little too close to her and always dropping by the house -- unreal and she'd mentally get involved with them. I told her time to see psychiatrist and these young bucks were just being nice and flirting back -- practicing on her and bored. The elders' wives telling me they didn't trust her were much younger than she, also, but probably right. Another married, pioneer, sister, was quite sad and in blue funk one day telling me about this young, single, dude's engagement. I wouldn't have thought much about it but she'd mentioned few mos previously one's weakness might be younger men and I thought how strange - why make a point of that but her husband was much older and my radar sensed she was unhappy. At the time the term 'Cougar' wasn't in vogue/lolol. We could make quite a soap opera.
There was a daily text recently about Samuel, as a small boy being handed over to Elie in charge of the tabernacle.
Think about that bible example
He having to take in the conduct of the sons of Eli, sending back perhaps suddenly pregnant wives, defiled Virgins to their Husbands, Fathers, -- after their, often compulsory trip - to the sacred site.
these are the writings that"exist as examples for our instruction"
nothing has changed, and some have only learned too well. like
David, who got away with murder and the sordid prelude.
