OMG I just read LE's diatribe.
Can't help but think of Scarlet O'Hara at the end of the first act of GWTW...
"as god as my witness I shall never go hungry again" ish
Again, no responsibility taken on his behalf of his choices. What a mess he is.
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OMG I just read LE's diatribe.
Can't help but think of Scarlet O'Hara at the end of the first act of GWTW...
"as god as my witness I shall never go hungry again" ish
Again, no responsibility taken on his behalf of his choices. What a mess he is.
this is directed to born-ins.
around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.
i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.
I also didn’t like how the information was presented in the article like it wasn’t so big a deal. But, it was certainly something.
Waves to LHG, yep. Exactly. I asked elders that I was close to about it and they just looked at me and shrugged their shoulders like they did with everything...with the "what do you want me to say" look.
Looks like you and I left at the same time; it's been 21 years for me as well.
this is directed to born-ins.
around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.
i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.
As a kid the science I was learning in school made me question all the idiotic crap that we were taught from the Paradise book. The Bible stories, Garden of Eden, talking snake, Noah's ark were especially difficult for me to buy even as a kid.
It took the generation change in 1995 to finally confirm years of doubt of the ridiculous doctrines.
shouldn't gb tell members to abandon organisation?
surely things are pointing at watchtower being part of babylon the great.
in with way is watchtower being bless and been shown god's favour this days?
The Watchtower is a corporation, in fact many corporations. The purpose of a corporation is to remain in business, and every single decision is made to support that. It has nothing to do with spirituality or god. That is just marketing for the corporation.
When you understand this, everything makes sense.
see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.
"senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".
the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".
OMG.
Wonder if any of these cases were part of the ARC.
jehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.
A friend who was a MS pleaded with me to "just play the game." They could pick me up for meeting for FS, we would tell the group we were doing calls, and then we could go out to breakfast in a neighboring city.
As tempting as that sounded, (NOT! LOL), I still didn't go back to meetings.
jehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.
It's laughable. A desperate attempt to make sure hours are reported to convince the sheeple the "life saving" TM work is ongoing.
As if D2D was a big joke, the carts are even more so.
i was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
we all just go on for a chat and a catch up
I've heard the same. People have heard the information literally tens of thousands of times. They know the program even if it changes overlappingly. But I have heard they look forward to the chat locally and the international chat rooms. It's like meeting people at lunch at a convention. Interesting times.
Welcome and I look forward to your throughts.
hi all i just thought i'd recommend a new-ish exjw podcast i've found, for all of you who enjoy the podcast format.
i find this chap very calming and pleasant to listen to, so imho well worth a listen.. https://survivingparadise.buzzsprout.com/1882958/10902481-you-can-live-forever-in-paradise-on-earth-jesus-missed-the-memo-until-1932?s=09.
Started listening. Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing.
i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.
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Boy does this bring back memories.
Remembering that whole messy Cedars/AAWA time when they added hundreds of Facebook accounts to their “Activist” page. I had family/friends and former Bible student who was on my FB page I was trying to keep a relationship with. I do/did not consider or want to be an activist. I merely was trying to navigate leaving a life I was raised in, losing my family and friends because of it, desperately trying not to make things worse for a devoted JW mom who I continued to take care of etc etc etc. I found a community of people navigating though the same issues. That’s it.
I sometimes wonder if those that brand themselves "activists" are , consciously or sub-consciously , looking down on those who share their beliefs but aren't as vocal or "active" as the "activist" is. A bit like the self righteous pioneer / elderette etc types in the congregation who always seemed a bit dismissive and sometimes openly critical of those who didn't do as much ministry as they did.
^^^this is exactly it with some folks. People carry their same attitudes to no matter what group they are in…be it work, religion, politics. I wanted to stay as far away as possible from that toxic AAWA group. That being said I do have dear friends who are very much activists without the previous drama.