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  Tom Petty has passed away

  by sir82 in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a12766936/tom-petty-critical-condition-cardiac-arrest/.

  sad..

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  Dagney

  Pretty sad day yesterday. He had just finished a world tour ending up here with three days at the Hollywood Bowl just one week ago.

  RIP.
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  So today this happened...

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.

  today the cobe finally found us in.

  well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.

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  Dagney

  Phoebe - how did you respond to the "command from Jehovah" statement about going to meetings?

  I had a message left on all 3 of my phones from a JW, former elder, who has kept in touch with me a few times a year since I left. Usually the convo goes okay, but I get agita every time I see his name pop up on my phone. I am wondering if he is going to do the same to me...try to get me back to meetings.

  Seriously, I shouldn't be this nervous. I gotta get a grip.
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  Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.

  she was a teenager at the time.

  what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.

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  Dagney

  Hi DNCall!

  Thank you for sharing your sister's story. Wonderful they had such clarity at that age and got the heck out! I remember having to back away from school commendations and having cognitive dissonance. It just seems so ridiculous now to not pursue what you are good at. ***sigh**

  What matters is we are out now, right! *clink*

  xxx
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  "Please pray for me."

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, friends:.

  today, i saw an old friend in town, and, after we got caught up and finally said our goodbyes, she asked me to pray for her.

  family problems were eating her up.. how have you responded if and when you were asked this?

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  Dagney

  They are asking because they are looking for comfort. My prayer may not be what they think prayer is. I was and still am comforted and very touched by nonJW's, I think usually Catholic, who tell me they will say a prayer for me or a loved one.

  If they are older, or distressed, I just say "I will!" without going detail, and privately send positive thoughts.

  In another circumstance, I would just say "Sending positive and healing thoughts your way."
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  Make Your Excellent Point to a JW, But- Remember, it's a Mind Control Cult.

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am reading from many that they have an excellent thought-stopper for jw's.

  (remember reasoning from the scriptures used "thought-stoppers?

  )"if you just show them [this scripture or use this logic or expose this problem with the organization], you will shut them down.".

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  Dagney

  Hi OTWO! waves.

  I echo your thoughts. All the JW's I know have seen this organization pivot so many times on issues and doctrine, they are used to it. Right now the focus is "Don't Give Up!" They make up their own reasons for staying, family, social, it's easier...hanging on to the hope of a pet tiger, a very strong tether. I am convinced you cannot argue with faith; it is a waste of time.

  With that being said, my little arrows are at the corporation. I tell them they are doing things that go against my conscience. They don't want to know or ask...so I know it raises a niggle in them.

  We can only hope more and more will have the courage to step outside the box.
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  I got lost yesterday at Iomoio listening to Joe Cocker. I had just watched a Netflix doc on him, and had no idea about the man other than his popular songs. I can't post youtubes because I'm at work. He recorded a favorite Jimmy Webb song, "The Moon's a Harsh Mistress" back in the early 70's and again in 2007 I think.

  Who knew. I bought a ton of songs.
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  My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.

  "don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".

  i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.

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  Dagney

  Good response stuck.

  Sadly, most of the time it doesn't matter. I've been there...like most of us have...and just voiced the company lines like your dad.

  Don't give up! it would be hard for him to not respond like you did, but you never know that what you said might just stay in his subconscious for the next time the Bible reading rolls around to that part of the Bible.
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  Freudian slip in last Sunday's WT?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.

  who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.

  so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).

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  Dagney

  I just finished emailing my brother, a COBE/elder. We have been corresponding a bit lately as he lives near one of the disaster areas, and I am concerned about them.

  Yesterday he sent an email telling me he turns a particular age this week, (late 70's), and said "who would have thunk it!" I just wrote him back and said "nobody thunk it, especially me!." LOLOLOL

  Ay yi yi...in the same email he is bragging about his grandson taking a trip to Warwick, "and the NYC museums." I can only imagine what is going through his mind. Yet again, I think they really wouldn't know what to do with themselves without the social aspect of the congregation.

  Whatever. **sigh**
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  "You should worry when we stop knocking."

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an arrogant thing to say.. "you shouldn't complain about us knocking on your door.

  you should worry when we stop.".

  wish i had a snappy response to shove up their pompous ass every time i hear a jw spew this..

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  Dagney

  "Well isn't that a loving Christian thought!"
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  No Longer Afraid

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, dear friends and fellow survivors:.

  i am grateful to be alive and associated with like-minded people, both here on this wonderful forum and in day-to-day interaction with friends, neighbors, clients, but, sadly, few if any jehovah's witnesses.

  i have, somehow, become detached from the sadness and sorrow of the past, about which i have written on this and other ex-jw forums for some dozen-plus years.

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  Dagney

  (((Coco))) beautiful expression on a complicated journey.