Posts by Dagney

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Overlapping Generations

by JRK in

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i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

Dagney

Hi John.

This came out at an assembly right? I remember a friend telling me about it, and that his COBE brother said to him after the talk, "we were duped."

The COBE still going strong, or so it seems. The friend is out, but just out 6 mths or so.

Another friend, former elder now out, said, "it's all BS. It all depends on how much BS you can stand." Although a simplistic statement, I think it's true. For us here, we couldn't take any more BS. Others seem to let more pile up.

Edited to add: I think about this all the time. I can't believe people are still in. I know all the reasons...but jeez louise...it's two thousand f**kin EIGHTEEN!!!!!!!

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Interview with an Apostate : humbled : not-a-captive

by humbled in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. born in 1952 second oldest of the family of nine children.

as you see, my family was thoroughly catholic.

dad was in the army.. were you a born in or a convert?.

Dagney

humbled, thank you for sharing your interesting story...what a story it is. Brave to write Bethel too.

Maybe I need one of your wooden spoons!

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Interview with Dagney

by Dagney in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born and raised in southern california, with a brief stint with parents as need-greaters in central america.

my parents accepted a study in the d2d work, i believe my father was interested in the revolutionary aspect of the religion, and my mom said she wanted to learn the bible.

they were baptized in 1937 i think, and attended the one and only los angeles kh at the time.

Dagney

Hi Lois,

Seester Jaracz as I remember was a very bubbly personality. I think she had bright red hair, I was 12 so...who knows. She was nice and quite a character as was the sister that was studying with me. Big personalities. But other than that, I have no other impression of her from that period.

One of the times I was at Bethel, they put me at Jaracz's table in the dining room for 2-3 days. He was very serious and not really friendly or talkative. He brightened up when Melitta came in. I thought it was odd he had no interest in chatting at all, and he was my former CO or DO! Some of the other GB's were so nice and friendly compared to him. Sidlik, the Greek guy, Freddy, Carey Barber were so personable.

Anyway, I'm not much help. Probably DNC has the goods.

Hope you are doing well. I have some friends from the UK that are up your way right now. I hope to someday too!

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Interview with an Apostate: Nic-MightyV8

by MightyV8 in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. male, single, 62 yrs old.

adult adhd.

married in victoria moved back to western australia to start our lives far away from her parents as possible.. two kids, son 37 yrs old, daughter 34. both are married and still jws.

Dagney

Another great story and read.

Thank you for sharing.

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Interview with an Apostate - Passwordprotected

by passwordprotected in

father was raised catholic and converted to the jws in the late '60s.

my dad's side of the family are still catholics and are very nice to me.

my mum's side are all jws and they shun me (boo hoo).. were you a born in or a convert?.

Dagney

humbled: I wish you would just go back to being a Catholic so you could do anything you wanted to.”

LOL, that made me laugh. I had someone tell me "why couldn't you be Methodist..." Yeah, thanks mom.

passwordprotected: Thank you so much for sharing.

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Interview with an Apostate - Wozza

by wozza in

born in the early 50’s in london england to non jw parents and when i was young we moved to adelaide south australia and there my brother was born .

i contracted tb on the ship over and was treated in hospital for months with a antibiotic which is banned for humans here now .

my father would tell me tearfully over the years how horrible it was for me and them .even then ,dad was told by doctors i may have nerve and brain damage from the treatment and an unstable temperament.. .

Dagney

Wow what a story! Glad there is some peace in your life now. Thank you so much for taking the time to write your story.

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Fresh Air podcast: Bart Ehrman's new book "Triumph of Christianity"

by Dagney in

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i found the interview interesting as i've always been interested in this subject.

understanding always it's his opinion as a historian, which influences his observations perhaps to his own desired outcome.. https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/595161200/author-traces-christianitys-path-from-forbidden-religion-to-a-triumph.

Dagney

I found the interview interesting as I've always been interested in this subject. Understanding always it's his opinion as a historian, which influences his observations perhaps to his own desired outcome.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/595161200/author-traces-christianitys-path-from-forbidden-religion-to-a-triumph

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Interview with Dagney

by Dagney in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born and raised in southern california, with a brief stint with parents as need-greaters in central america.

my parents accepted a study in the d2d work, i believe my father was interested in the revolutionary aspect of the religion, and my mom said she wanted to learn the bible.

they were baptized in 1937 i think, and attended the one and only los angeles kh at the time.

Dagney

I think there was drama with some of the friends. This process of leaving can leave you exasperated and open to whatever comes your way.

Yes Uzzah and Bumblebee, Yellowfatcat (I think the name was), the Bianchis, someone that used to host a document site. I think there were about 50-60 people. It was wild!

It's NOTHING like Tahoe, lol. Tahoe is very relaxing with sharing or not sharing if you want. Just lovely, interesting people that share your journey.

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An Interview with an Apostate - Truth B Known

by truth_b_known in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born in the mid-1970s in the midwest part of the u.s. my parents were about to enter gilead when i arrived.

my father converted to jw in his late 20s/early 30s.

he was raised a catholic, but became an atheist/agnostic.

Dagney

Wow! What a great story! Thank you for sharing, and that you for your service. What a feather to capture a fugitive JW!!

Great read. Congratulations on your life post JW!

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Atheists - How Did You Become An Atheist After Waking Up?

by pale.emperor in

i consider myself an atheist.

and right now i'm reading a lot on atheism in general (books written to answer creationists).. i'd be interested in knowing how you became an atheist after leaving the jws and how long did it take?

was it instant or did your belief in a deity gradually decline?.

Dagney

After decades spent as a JW, and being able to make sense of a sky-daddy that was both loving and murderous (as I always said...it sucked to be a Canaanite), I finally got mad at god.
Read Hitchins, saw Dawkins speak at JPL, read some suggested books on the weird things in the bible that never made sense.
Had great convos with exJW's, besty comes to mind.
Stopped believing and it had no impact on my life.
Had a profound moment at a science museum that had Sue the T-Rex on tour. The guide let me hold a fossilized dinosaur egg, and I started to cry. Years of crap avoidance of science just fell at my feet. I was done.