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  Even elders don’t know their beliefs

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.

  first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.

  of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.

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  Dagney

  Before I left, and I'm thinking it was around 2000, I was at a gathering of pretty close friends. This group was very open about their feelings with the understanding nothing left the room; it was completely "safe."

  One time a relative was there, a current elder/former special pioneer (Ireland). I don't remember what we were talking about, but it probably was a bit of groaning about the same things that are discussed here. I remember the brother was mimicking going up to the door in FS and said, "Hi! I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we don't know what we believe."

  That just really hit home, and I never forgot it.
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  Posters You Miss

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

  i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

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  Dagney

  Actually I miss JCanon too. I totally understand the need to put a lid on him. But he was really smart and about the most colorful character ever. Wonder what happened to him.
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  I Went To My Brother’s Memorial Service at the Kingdom Hall

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to say that the talk was very good.

  instead of just repeating a jw manual , the speaker actually spoke about my brother!

  there were a few scriptures with the jw hope but 80 % of the talk was actually about the life of my brother.

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  What a humongous waste of time the religion produces.

  This is something that angers/saddens me more than anything. Of course they continue to look forward to paradise, but the org has done a fantastic job of convincing people that "now" is not important. It's not important for relationships, personal growth, work..just anything. Lost time/years you can never get back all for absolutely nothing.
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  I Went To My Brother’s Memorial Service at the Kingdom Hall

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to say that the talk was very good.

  instead of just repeating a jw manual , the speaker actually spoke about my brother!

  there were a few scriptures with the jw hope but 80 % of the talk was actually about the life of my brother.

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  Dagney

  Well that's good to hear. JW's know how to take a gathering and make it insufferable. Glad they handled the talk with a personal point of view. Again, sorry for your loss.
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  Posters You Miss

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

  i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

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  Dagney

  It was a sentimental walk down memory lane reading the names mentioned in this thread.

  Hillary_Step - wow. He was one of the most interesting posters. His discussions blew my mind, which was sorely needed. I just searched him right now and will take the time later to read some of the discussions again.

  Narkissos, Leo, just2laws...oy...so many.

  Crumpet, coffee black, Mary, tkjmo are alive on Facebook.

  Thank you again Simon for this place to heal, argue...grow.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  Hi John.

  This came out at an assembly right? I remember a friend telling me about it, and that his COBE brother said to him after the talk, "we were duped."

  The COBE still going strong, or so it seems. The friend is out, but just out 6 mths or so.

  Another friend, former elder now out, said, "it's all BS. It all depends on how much BS you can stand." Although a simplistic statement, I think it's true. For us here, we couldn't take any more BS. Others seem to let more pile up.

  Edited to add: I think about this all the time. I can't believe people are still in. I know all the reasons...but jeez louise...it's two thousand f**kin EIGHTEEN!!!!!!!
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  Interview with an Apostate : humbled : not-a-captive

  by humbled in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. born in 1952 second oldest of the family of nine children.

  as you see, my family was thoroughly catholic.

  dad was in the army.. were you a born in or a convert?.

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  Dagney

  humbled, thank you for sharing your interesting story...what a story it is. Brave to write Bethel too.

  Maybe I need one of your wooden spoons!

  
  
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  Interview with Dagney

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born and raised in southern california, with a brief stint with parents as need-greaters in central america.

  my parents accepted a study in the d2d work, i believe my father was interested in the revolutionary aspect of the religion, and my mom said she wanted to learn the bible.

  they were baptized in 1937 i think, and attended the one and only los angeles kh at the time.

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  Dagney

  Hi Lois,

  Seester Jaracz as I remember was a very bubbly personality. I think she had bright red hair, I was 12 so...who knows. She was nice and quite a character as was the sister that was studying with me. Big personalities. But other than that, I have no other impression of her from that period.

  One of the times I was at Bethel, they put me at Jaracz's table in the dining room for 2-3 days. He was very serious and not really friendly or talkative. He brightened up when Melitta came in. I thought it was odd he had no interest in chatting at all, and he was my former CO or DO! Some of the other GB's were so nice and friendly compared to him. Sidlik, the Greek guy, Freddy, Carey Barber were so personable.

  Anyway, I'm not much help. Probably DNC has the goods.

  Hope you are doing well. I have some friends from the UK that are up your way right now. I hope to someday too!
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  Interview with an Apostate: Nic-MightyV8

  by MightyV8 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. male, single, 62 yrs old.

  adult adhd.

  married in victoria moved back to western australia to start our lives far away from her parents as possible.. two kids, son 37 yrs old, daughter 34. both are married and still jws.

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  Dagney

  Another great story and read.

  Thank you for sharing.
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  Interview with an Apostate - Passwordprotected

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  father was raised catholic and converted to the jws in the late '60s.

  my dad's side of the family are still catholics and are very nice to me.

  my mum's side are all jws and they shun me (boo hoo).. were you a born in or a convert?.

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  humbled: I wish you would just go back to being a Catholic so you could do anything you wanted to.”

  LOL, that made me laugh. I had someone tell me "why couldn't you be Methodist..." Yeah, thanks mom.

  passwordprotected: Thank you so much for sharing.