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  Mark Stephen Lett Raps about Murmuring and Other Urgent Jehovah's Witness Issues

  by BottleGate_ in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1-vnsbp7c.

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  Dagney

  That was HILARIOUS! Thanks for posting.
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  Did You Ever Get Hit On By An Elder?

  by minimus in

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  the organization stresses to elders to be careful with members of the opposite sex.

  never be alone with a sister whether it be in field service or paying a visit by means of a shepherding call.

  do you know of any elders that flirted or were overly “touchy” with females?

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  Dagney

  Oh yes.

  One turned into a relationship, I was still in high school and he was married, 13 years my senior. I came to grips with the affect on me during the 90's when there was focus on these issues via the media, talk shows, Anita Hill etc. I pushed it way down for years, but i realize afterward it profoundly affected me and my relationships.

  At one point I said we needed to talk to the brothers, and he agreed but we never did. I told several people including an elder friend many cities away. That was during the time when you could sort of self counsel. He told me to move on if I wasn't in love or seeking a relationship, which I wasn't. So I moved on.

  I don't think it's unusual.
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  How Does It Make You Feel Kids?

  by neat blue dog in

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  a recent printable kids activity asks kids to describe their feelings when marketing various jwdotorg products:.

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  meanwhile, here's a recent public post from harvest inn's social media profile:.

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  Dagney

  Written exactly by people who don't have kids and don't have a clue how to talk to them. IMHO

  That would be torture IMO to go through that questioning.
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  Did You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Were Typically “Racists”?

  by minimus in

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  i was a jw from infancy.

  we had a melting pot type of congregation.

  i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.

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  Dagney

  Interesting thread. Growing up in Southern California in the 60's, everywhere including the KH was racially diverse. So I don't know anything different. Hispanics, Japanese, black, white made up grade school through high school and the congregation. As a kid we were all friends. It would be interesting to know if there was any racism felt.

  I loved the fact as I would run into the older sisters at conventions as a 50+ year old, they would pull me to their chest and still call me "baby girl." But who knows what they and their husbands and kids went through with others at the hall...

  I wish I could still talk to some of them, but being "out" makes it too complicated.
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  Take a Moment and Think About How Awesome You Are

  by Simon in

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  it's easy to get bogged down with life and think you're not getting ahead or progressing.

  but regardless of where we think things may be going, pretty much everyone who's come through this site is an achiever who's done an amazing thing in one way or another even if they may not think about it.. so think about it!.

  you got past and over your programming and indoctrination.

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  Dagney

  Simon, I love your post.

  We all do need to remember how hard and courageous it was to leave when we feel how stupid for staying in for so long, and of course, I am speaking to myself. I still beat myself up at times, especially when I am asked to tell my story.

  Thank you Simon for the reminder.
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  New building

  by asp59 in

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  you think the new building addition to warwick ,that will house 1000 audiovisual and art production volunteers is a push to go online with the meetings?

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  Dagney

  I think it might be a deliberate designed distraction for the faithful in case they start hearing some unsavory press regarding the pedophile coverups. Emphasis on their seemingly relevant construction work could be meant as “exciting theocratic news” to divert attention from bad the bad news. Just a thought that popped up in my brain.
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  The Great Tribulation must be at least 3 years away

  by BourneIdentity in

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  since they’ve announced the dates for the next 3 memorials, no talk about this “may be our last one!”.

  since they’ve announced the patterson construction project will take 3 years to complete.

  let’s also not forget when they designed warwick, they spent money on expensive energy saving technology to save millions in the long run, years and decades in the future.

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  Dagney

  I was wondering what was going on at Patterson. I just attended a memorial, and several couples said they put in their applications for Patterson. Ugh. Again, a perceived relevance that their efforts are important. Sigh.

  
  
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  Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

  by Tameria2001 in

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  2. beliefs

  i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

  my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

  there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

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  Dagney

  (I miss Leo.) Her topic referenced by Blondie occurred just about the time I dared to read this site. Her documentation had a profound effect on me.

  I always had a problem with "the paradise" story. Did anyone else choke when you had to actually say "talking snake" out loud to someone?

  I remember one discussion early on between a bible believer and another poster. I think the debate was about creation, and the believer was mocking evolution, something they knew nothing about, just spouting the WT verbiage. "How can you BELIEVE we came from nothing" sort of talk. The the poster said, "some people believe a talking snake is credible." Mike drop.
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  How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?

  by minimus in

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  it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?

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  Dagney

  ^^^This. Absolutely. If you have questions or doubts, just pay more attention. Don't shove it down and make excuses for the corporation. They don't care about you. They make this stuff up to keep to control you.
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  How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?

  by minimus in

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  it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?

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  Dagney

  Too long. 20 years.

  Edited to add: I had the "feeling" it was all BS at the end of the 70's, and talked myself into staying because of the "brotherhood", (yeah...right).

  After the 1995 generation change, the feelings were confirmed it was BS, they were making it all up. 6 years later, during a meeting I just felt I didn't belong there, left and never went back. During those in between years I started paying closer attention to the Watchtower, and looking up scriptures quoted in context.

  After leaving I read CoC, Penton's book and Carl's book, which basically confirmed everything I felt I already knew.