Posts by Dagney

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JW's everlasting life is only written in PENCIL!
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
september 2022 study watchtower p.16, par.7 .

"the second group consists of the great crowd of other sheep.

are their names now written in the book of life?
Dagney
The carrot = pet tiger/lion/panda, swiss chalet home, picnics every day, dead people popping up everywhere
JW Reality:
1. 70-80 years of current life in "worldly" system sickness/death
2. Then "The Tribulation" (TM) prison, attacks from governments
3. Then "Armageddon" the greatest of all wars and Jesus on the white horse and 9 billion dead
4. Cleaning up the 9 billion dead along with the birds
5. Then building the swiss chalet and planting and eating your own figs/growing cotton for clothes and somewhere in there steel mills/glass mfg/wood processing or whathaveyou (TBA)
6. Clean up the earth from 9 billion and rebuild new world.
7. Satan released and go through steps 1-6 again, wash repeat.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Dagney

^^ Exactly. A doubt or question is there to begin with if you are sitting through any apostate videos, let alone LE's. Why some people credit LE when it is their own questioning brain...don't know.
Again, it is the cult of LE, his behavior is excusable and lying doesn't matter. Interestingly, this person's exit was due to not being able to get a study WT while df'd, and was told to get their copy online. And guess what site popped up while searching for said WT? They voraciously read this site and the masterful discussions...they were out in just a few days.
So there you go.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Dagney

I had a discussion with a very passionate patreon of LE last week. They absolutely saw nothing wrong with LE and his sex life it was none of anybody's business. The argument was that they personally knew many people that were helped out of JW by LE's videos and if it wasn't for said videos, (the same ones I cannot stand to watch), these folks would still be in the cult. I said said LE's bad behavior doesn't negate per se individual good results...it is still bad behavior.
When I say passionate, I really mean passionate. Sooo, I just had to tell the person that I "heard" what they were saying, and I understand. I let them finish and said my experience is different, the sex life is just one part of many issues with LE, and that I think he is a jerk, and a liar, and has treated people in the EXJW community horribly. I also felt he is hypocritical in the way he personally criticizes members of the GB for less than LE's behavior. They said "that is laughable."
We ended that I feel as strongly in my opinion as they did in theirs, and we just have to agree to disagree. I'm telling you...it felt like it was talking to someone who just jumped from one cult to another.
On a side note, can that man taaaallllkkkk...I tried to watch the "Leaving bunker" video, and cut out after 5 minutes. I really do not see the attachment people have to his videos...
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy in
1. jw
2. friends
does anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?

he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.

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Dagney

Thank you for sharing that betterdaze. What a sweet interview. He sounded good and I sure hope he’s okay.
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Randall Watters our old friend
by new boy in
1. jw
2. friends
does anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?

he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.

.
Dagney

I worry about Randy also. He contacted me about a year ago, but I was in the middle of a situation I could not respond. He was in Texas then. It's been a rough few years for him. He has family, in the midwest I think. I hope things are sorted.
Randy was the guy for a long time. He had the foresight to collect the JW information and had friends all over the world.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Dagney

From a business standpoint it might be wise for LE to widen out his activist base. He burned part of the bridge in the exJW community IMHO. LE version 5.0.
I watched a little of the interview with the Danish lady, poor dear. It reminded me of my mom, (no voices though), who emotionally just loved "Jehovah/god/Jesus" sooooo much, especially near the end of her life. I'm always torn because she was happy I think in her choices but I always wanted more for her. My issues.
Interestingly he cleaned himself up for these new videos. I think he's scrambling to be relevant in his own mind. He sounds condescending and insincere to me, though he's trying not to, IMO. And the whole "activist/writer/husband/father" line...sheesh.
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ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

30 secs.

point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.
Dagney

You know, I've wracked my brain trying to figure out why the corporation was not more protective of children...I mean how can you not!
But with this revelation of Lett, I see now.
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Still here.
by Lee Marsh in
1. jw
2. friends
the last 2 1/2 years have been extremely stressful.

while the rest of the world was dealing with covid, i was also dealing with cancer.

in fact it seems none of my doctors knew about it.
Dagney

Congratulations indeed Lee for your all clear diagnosis!
Continued healing and recovery.
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Call Bethel Podcast
by Simon in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i haven't seen this posted, maybe worth a listen:.

"brave whistleblowers.

a trail of data.
Dagney

I have it queued up now. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Keep Sweet Pray and Obey [FLDS Documentary]
by RolRod in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
there's a new documentary series on netflix regarding the flds.

fundamentalist latter day saints.

anyone watch it yet?
Dagney

Just started watching last night.
Ticks so many of the same boxes as in high control, and a fantastic imaginary future promised.
Ugh.