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  What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

  so, they did... with parental consent.

  he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

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  Dagney

  Boy where do I begin.

  I guess the ones I remember most are the many times husbands were unfaithful to the wives, and the wives were pressured to "forgive and forget." Could be the other way around, of course. They were looked down upon if they proceeded with divorce. They were miserable and it never ended well. It was pretty sad.

  The other was an elder body coerced a friend to sell the family home that he inherited from his mother. His siblings didn't think it was fair he had the house even though he lived and took care of her through her last very ill days. So the siblings went to elders and complained. What a mess and he is still so upset over it many years later.

  I don't think the elders would be so involved these days...tho I could be wrong. They were so intrusive.
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  Prediction: no more changes for a long while

  by slimboyfat in

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  i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.

  so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.

  maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.

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  Dagney

  Of course they have a plan. Every business does if they want to remain in business, which includes adapting to changes that support the longevity of the corporation.
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  The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  holy nativity batman!

  on jw broadcasting.

  final song for this year's convention.

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  Dagney

  They keep trying out the Jesus thing...Great Teacher etc. It's been decades of indoctrination that Jehober is your "guy." Except for prayers ending "in Jesus name," (after repeating Jah's name at least 5 times during the prayer), and his party once a year for "remembrance", there is really no relationship with Jesus. They aren't supposed to...only the select few are so privileged.

  It's still "Jehovah this and Jehovah that." This will be a hard ship to turn. Maybe the young will get the fever, but WT will need to work on their language.
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

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  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  Dagney

  Ding - exactly. If you ever remember the talks about the widows mite being enough then in the closing “are you really giving/doing enough? Can you honestly say to Jehober you can’t give any more?” Constant double speak. Jehovah loves you, you’re special, and you are one heartbeat away from destruction.

  LHG - same. The FS change was surprising when I heard it, but when I think about their motives as a business/corpoation, it makes perfect sense to not show the decline in hours for all to see. Everything was a measure in the past and where individuals lined up in the measure is how they were judged. We always talked about how unchristian that was. 🤦🏼‍♀️
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  Dagney

  I mentioned how lovely, etc. and the sister said: “they are having their reward in full”.

  Oh yes, how entitled they feel they are. Sickens me. Our territory was a mix of very modest dwellings and some of the most expensive on canals by the ocean. I remember similar statements said while in the FS work in Naples. So judgemental and superior.

  Waves to LHG...so good to see you here after all these years.
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  If you don't GERRIT you remain in the LOSCH of Watchtower

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  2. beliefs

  if you don't gerrit you remain in the losch of lies and manipulations of the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses .

  today only one organization is exclaiming about this real peril.

  this is the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Dagney

  All they have to say now is the end is "really really really really close!"

  Everybody seems to be good with just that.
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  If you don't GERRIT you remain in the LOSCH of Watchtower

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't gerrit you remain in the losch of lies and manipulations of the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses .

  today only one organization is exclaiming about this real peril.

  this is the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Dagney

  None of the GB had any religious training as far as I know, and they don't really care to. So they can make any claim and go about their day because it just doesn't matter. They are focused on $$ and keeping their jobs and golden living arrangements.

  I was still in when a program came on PBS about apocalyptic religions through the centuries. I'm sure your list above was part of the program. The show came right through the 1800's and the offshoots of Miller. Each sect presented perfectly good reasons in their mind why their specific date was "the real end of the world." It made all the difference to me and I was out within two years. I watched the same show with an elder friend and his wife, and it didn't phase him one bit. So it goes.
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  OJ Simpson Died today

  by 3rdgen in

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  thoughts?.

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  Dagney

  Good riddance.
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  Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.

  confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.

  "" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.

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  Dagney

  You just wonder what in the world it could possibly take to make people at least question the appointment arrangement when something like this happens.

  This is horrifying.
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  Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  3/28/2024 central california coast.

  found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.

  ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".

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  Dagney

  Yes there was a guy down here in the 90's who went to prison. Financial "planner" I think, ended up a ponzi scheme.