good morning all, i would love some genuine advice please.. i have an old friend who is still in the org, but has never been the very staunch type.
however, she is going through a very rough patch in life, (past deeds from youth caught up and now is in prison) and i reached out to her by old fashioned snail mail.. by her reply she sounds more pimi than ever and finding some sort of comfort in the literature.
would i be wrong to attempt to wake her up, would that actually be a cruel thing to do right now?
I personally would not send her anything or try to wake her up unless she asked you why you left, or expressed doubts or questions.
I would be a friend since she is going through such a difficult time. There is always time for that later. By maintaining a relationship where she feels free and safe to talk with you, it leaves the door open for those types of discussions when the time is right.
My $.02.
it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.
i was almost 5 years old when these were released.
“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.
Hi LHG,
I actually do get it. ATM I think I was feeling a little sad for my brother and the delayed gratification etc. And his wife is very very ill, and it's very hard for them...their choice I know. Their life within the congregation is pretty good, I think. They are looked after more than most it sounds like. It works for them.
I left in 2001 also and never regretted it for one second. It was difficult, but it was the surest decision I have ever made.
it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.
i was almost 5 years old when these were released.
“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.
All we can do is be thankful we got Out of there.
I was talking with my sister last night about this very thing. We are so grateful to be out. Our brother and his family are still in, many many health issues and facing just a few years more of not so golden years.
They can't understand why we left, and we can't understand why they would stay with all the false predictions and prophecies.
if any one was so inclined to go back to 2013 on the site and locate the posts on the note takers reporting on the 2013 convention [the release of the rnwt and gb demanding obedience] there were two note takers who reported on the main talk "human apostates" that there was a new tactic being used, letter writing to the publishers homes.
the main subject of those letters was a elder joe moore.
on 12-26-2007 i taped court case #149893 to kh doors.
Oh for Pete's sakes.
I know Balamsass and 3rd gen personally. You are FOS.
i’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.
all hotels booked.
big marquee.
Any Paul Gillies sightings? Beard?
just dropped on vice network's youtube channel.
no matter what you may think of some of vice's politics, they have several good series throughout the years.
this is one of their series that interviews informants and people who've left and they expose the inter workings of things.
WingCommander - thank you for posting. I shared it with a few others. 🥂
governing body's ridiculous viewpoint of higher education.
to see this video, please click this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186#p186.
g4a.
The Universities do not teach anything healthy if that is what they learn to be political rioters.
Nothing like generalizing everything into one pot. Someone hasn't a clue about education.
governing body's ridiculous viewpoint of higher education.
to see this video, please click this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186#p186.
g4a.
You can't get expelled for going to college. Half the congregation I go to is/went to college. However, nobody talks about it so it's perfectly fine.
Exactly. My last congregation had real businessmen who were the elder body and all their kids went to college. They understood what the value of education was.
However, in the 1970's, a friend of mine went to secretarial school after high school and she got a load of **it for it. Her father wasn't a JW, and she still went, but what a load of crock.
does anyone know how many hours were required to be a pioneer back in or around 1970?.
etude..
I was told the hours for full time in the 30's-40's was 150, although not called pioneers back then I think. Also "vacation pioneers" were for a 2 month minimum at 150 each month. My brother and sister were baptized kids then, and participated. They went out alone at 7 and 9 living in DTLA.
information about the new watchtower campus, ready in 2027.. https://www.brplusa.com/projects/watchtower-bible-tract-society-new-headquarters-campus-development.
g..
LOL. Campus. What a joke. It's called that for every government subsidy they can get. They have a shrewed and avaricious executive team.
I can't wait for the day they have to surrender this to pay the victims for the WT sins. I'm always hoping.
I really really hate this religion.
