i've noticed that this is the first holiday season for many here on the board.
that means there's gonna be some pretty sad xmas trees this year .
so my question is does anyone have any great holiday craft ideas????
Another easy thing is getting some nice ribbons to tie onto branches to fill in here and there. Make sure you get out to the sales after Christmas; there are always awesome deals on ornaments as they're clearing them out.
Have fun and Merry early Christmas!!
Dottie
there have been numerous recent threads about the level of psychiatric illness amongst the jw fraternity.
does anyone have any stories about the way in which this manifested itself with people in their congregations?.
i remember the brother who was found by the police in the early hours of the morning wandering about in the local park.
We didn't have any outbursts, but there were a few sisters that had a horrible time with depression and other mental anxieties. I thinks it's very sad because this so-called "flock" did not ever lend any emotional support to these women or their families. If anyone ever noticed that they weren't at the meeting, it was always "oh she's not feeling 'well' tonight". One single mother in the cong. had a very bad bout of depression and do you think any of those snooty elder's wives went to check on her or even call her? Not a one. My mom(also separated), and a couple of the other single moms would help her out. Strangely enough they are all still devoted to that "flock"!
Dottie
i was reading an account of the decline of the new york mob in usa today and found some .
parallels with the watchtower.. too much publicity and exposure: the 'teflon don' liked his armani suits and media.
presence - but this intensified the attention his organization received from authorities.. older, wiser leaders ( carlo gambino) realized that keeping a low profile was important.. the end of 'omerta' - mob figures used to maintain a code of silence but this started.
*LOL*
The mafia could probably pick up tips & pointers from the WTS!!!
Dottie
for those of you who grew up in 'the troof', after leaving, did you find it hard or uncomfortable in any way to celebrate holidays and bithdays since you had no ties to them whatsover?
if so, how did you deal with it?
When I was in highschool, I would secretly exchange gifts with my "worldly" friends. Mostly because I love to get gifts for people. The first time actually celebrating a holiday, or birthday, I felt kind of uncomfortable, but it was something I knew I could get used to. My biggest thing, even now is when my mother-in-law. or father-in-law ask me what I want for my birthday or for Christmas; I feel very selfish answering at all. I really like Christmas now, I think because I'm married and it's a big thing in my husbands family. Every year it's a weekend thing to go to his mom's and decorate the tree and house, we have a nice little get together. I mention any of this to my mom and she calls me a little pagan(jokingly, not with scorn thankfully) I can tell she HATES the fact that I'm celebrating it, but she's pretty good about it and respects the descisions that i've made in my life.(I'm very Lucky in this sense) I find it very easy to just go with the flow, only do what YOU'RE happy doing, whether you celebrate or not celebrate, it's all personal preference. (Personally I can't wait for Christmas :))
Dottie
hope the word "columbine" is spelled right in this post .
today i read an article on rense.com (an excellent website for all conspiracy theorists) where a parent was moaning about mtv, and the influence it was having on american children and other children.
apparently, mtv is bad for your morals or something.
When I was in school and living at home, my mother, was convinced that I was doing all these awful teenage things(by awful, I mean normal teen stuff) because of the music I listened to. Because of the borg, music was a great emotional release for me, so music at that time was a HUGE part of my life. The first time i ever skipped a class, I got caught. My mom was called and when I got home, my entire room was stripped BARE of anything that was related to music. Posters, magazines, books, my stereo, along with my tapes, collectable '45's (remember them?) and any kind of t-shirt that had a rock group on it. Needless to say I lost my mind (or so it seemed!)
I guess that the point is, your teacher blamed Doom for the same reason that my mom blamed the music. A quick easy scapegoat. If it looks bad, it must be evil...alot of people still blame music for things that kids do,(wasn't Marilyn Manson blamed for Columbine as well?) and they don't look at the real cold hard facts. They don't want to admit that there's a problem with what they're doing, and what they're teaching.(living in and encouraging social classes).
Anyway, good morning to all I have to get ready for work! I like something to think about while I drudge though the day. Great Topic SYN!!
dottie
i wonder what the real reason is behind this plea from the wbts.
perhaps it is more evidence of a desire to downsize?.
but they can't downsize the printing works if the brothers are being wasteful!
I think they should quit wasting trees and stop publishing altogether.
most of you know about the story of the ms who ratted on wildturkey and me for smoking at the club, he smoked one of my cigs and was there with his girlfriend (he is married).
well, i ran into him last night at the club and confronted him,, i asked him why he told on us, i just wanted to know, he said he didnt know why, he just felt pressured..i asked if he told on himself he said no!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i wanted to slap him right there.
I think that the borg is a HUGE breeding grounds for rats. My brother was at a party,(at a jw kids house btw) doing party things and the elders found out about the party and the all that was going on,(booze, pot,normal teenage stuff). They questioned all whom they thought were involved and sure enough there were a couple of rats in the bunch, out to save their own ratty skin. I myself was ratted out too about my smoking at school.
Anyway, my point is that you can never trust a witness with secrets like smoking or other "worldly" stuff that you happen to enjoy. Lyin' I think you should rat this MS out for his infedelities! ( or at least for the smoking!)
Dottie
were you raised as a jw, like me, or were you converted (at least i have an excuse)?
Born and raised, rebelled at age 15, leaving my mom and her beliefs behind. She just couldn't get it through her head that this wasn't for me, and the only way that she did "get it" was when I moved out.
Dottie
1) i sacrificed work offered to me so i could earn more money.
2) i sacrificed my job as a well payed dj.
3) i sacrificed weekend ly-ins to go out preaching.
1. sacrificed my entire childhood
2. any desire to go to college or university
3. any shred of independance or self-dignity
4. many, many, visits from santa, easter bunny, etc
the background to this thread is that i love wearing (?
) a beard, but my wife hates it.
i've changed my profile pic to reflect four states of facial hairiness (if it doesn't show, hit "refresh" on your browser).. i'm interested in your opinions.
Ithink that # 3 and # 4 are both great. My husband also has facial hair. I 've never known him without.
P.s I think that #2 makes you look like the actor Viggo Morgenstein(sp?) He was the Boot camp trainer guy in GI Jane.
Dottie
