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very interesting article.. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=42815
That is the point of it. Have faith that Jesus paid the penalty for all of our sins even if we find it absurd, void of logic or repulsive. Sin is that bad, it separates us from God. No more guilt, we sinned, Jesus took our punishment, we are forgiven just for asking.
Sorry for a late addition to this thread,
Paul
came across this article this morning.
i'm sorry if you think i keep harping on this, but this is scary.
devil worship is absolutely mainstream now.. .
WHAT GOD BLESSES NOTHING CAN CURSE.
The Catholic Church is the leader of Hundreds of Millions to One Billion Christians on Earth. One may not agree with its doctrine, its hierarchy, or believe its history to be too spotted yet it has still chosen to follow and promote Jesus as the Savior of all Mankind. The Watchtower's animosity to the Catholic Church is due to Russell's campaign against them and that still poisons JWs and ex-JWs feelings about a group of actual Christians. It was solely responsible for the spiritual welfare of all of Western Europe and many other places for over 1200 years. It mostly did the job. I believe that God's blessing and direction is evident in Mainstream Christianity. JWs are not informed about the blessings of God in Mainstream Christianity and refuse to believe the reports found everywhere. People are changed for the better. People have their physical needs cared for. Miracles do happen.
The biggest differences between Catholic, Orthodox, Traditional Protestant and independent Christian organizations is the style of worship and the Governance of the group. The differences in Theology is relatively minor.
What God Blesses nothing can curse. Satanists will not "take over" the Kingdom of Christ (Christendom = the Domain of Christ). The exposure will change some and that is what we should pray for. Prayer for all kinds of persons is appropriate. The WT ban on prayers for anyone other than themselves is not Biblical.
Greetings to all and prayers for blessings,
Paul
i'm not that good at quoting the bible.
i see no value in learning verses by heart, sorry.
however, i just learned that in the new world translation (the organization's bible), john 10:30, jesus is said to say "i and the father are one".
"singular anarthrous predicate nouns" does anyone know what that means? It is babble talk and might mean something to one in 1,000 University trained English majors but since only 5% of JWs have any college guess what? They likely are in awe at the big sounding words but have no clue if that is even a truthful or meaningful description of anything.
Sorry but my previous entry in this thread is that THE GOD is the one that the Logos was with but he is still called "god / God". The trinity is a separate issue anyway. The relationship between two persons is being spoken about.
We are familiar with three persons representing God. The Holy Spirit is an intelligent person.
1 Corinthians 2
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What no eye has seen and no ear has heard,
and what has never come into a man's heart,
is what God has prepared for those who love Him.
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who has known the Lord's mind,
that he may instruct Him?
But we have the mind of Christ.
Also, the Holy Spirit is termed "The Angel of The Presence of God" Angel meaning "messenger" but a person still.
Isaiah 63:
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Persons are grieved not "force fields" from God. The son of God was hinted at in Job when God asked if Job knew the name of his son. At Jesus baptism the Father identified Jesus as this Son introducing him with a thunderous voice from Heaven.
Equality is also a separate issue. Jesus is still called God. We must therefore fear him as much as The Father.
There may be more persons not yet identified.
Revelation 1
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To the seven churches in the province of Asia.
Grace and peace to you from the One who is, who was, and who is coming; from the seven spirits before His throne; 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
"Seven Spirits"
And the Sages of the Hebrew people throughout the last several millennium have theology for ten emanations of God who is called the EIN SOF. One of these emanations is "Wisdom" = "Chokhmah" "Binah" = "understanding" "Daat" = "knowledge". These emanations are said to have personality.
Proverbs 8 : 12 (and to 9 : 12 or so)
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It becomes obvious that a person is speaking in Proverbs 8 ....
Romans 11 : 22
Therefore, consider God's kindness and severity
Sephirot #4 Chesed -"Kindness"
#5 Gevurah - "Severity"
This is the nature of inspiration. God gives it to whom he wants and in several ways to produce "two or three witnesses".
Good-night, got Church and Sunday School in the Morning,
Paul
I, Wisdom, share a home with shrewdness
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to the elders of the maitland congregation and governing body of the watchtower tract.
and bible society,.
When I wrote my letter I refused to play by their rules so I used no terms they emply such as "disassociate" or that I was leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses since that term is in the Bible and refers to Israel. I just told them The Watchtower, its doctrines and origins was seriously flawed and left them to figure it out. I pray that the letter gets read by a heart prepared by the Holy Spirit to leave the WT and find a relationship with Jesus.
I said that the Watchtower had demonically inspired doctrines. That made certain no one missed the import of my letter.
Paul;
numbers are not a sound basis on which to build faith.
if christianity had been founded on numbers, it would have failed.
at christianitys darkest hour, namely, when jesus was on the torture stake, there was not one of his apostles that stood by him.
For every ten baptisms they perform the number of JWs goes up one or two because eight or nine leave at the same time. Check it out. Its the actual case. More leave all the time.
i'm looking all over and i can't find my old book.
i need to check one of the pictures - specifically jesus nailed to the stake..
Actually, based on Raymond Franz's testimony, the Aid to Bible Understanding book is well put together and the Commentary on James was well done by a man who is now considerd an Apostate enemy by the WT. The Aid books replacement is garbage. Raymond Franz sells the James Commentary in the form originally written because the WT edited something to its detriment. Raymond Franz does admit that he was given the Aid book's Bible Chronology entry and had to be dishonest to match the flawed dates that the GBees support.
Still don't have those anymore though. Might have demons printed onto the paper. They are in the Watchtower manufactured ink you know!
i'm looking all over and i can't find my old book.
i need to check one of the pictures - specifically jesus nailed to the stake..
Not me. I discarded ALL the Watchtower literature we had. I filled the book's pages with water and squeezed the water through so even the garbage man couldn't pick one up and read his death sentence for living well. The video tapes, hammered to pieces as well as cassettes. CD-ROMs cut up.
Ploof.
one of the questions i ask jws before discussing anything with them is:.
"what facts, evidence or otherwise would you consider as proof that jehovah's witnesses are not the true religion?".
i thought it was unfair to simply ask that of them so i figured i'd answer a similar question:.
If Jehovah's Witnesses teach it, it probably isn't true. I found through very deep study that they have a twist to every doctrine and many passages in the NWT are edited for tense or word choice to give a false impression of the meaning. I found that reading the NWT made me depressed as it was so negative. My Holman Christian Standard Bible does not.
It seems that every doctrine Christendom teaches is contradicted by the Watchtower. Every common practice condemned. Every Holiday represented as Pagan. Christmas is not a pagan holiday because Jesus is not a Pagan deity and so-on. Christmas is likely the date the Magi visited. See http://bethlehemstar.net/ for that.
Paul
just consider some of the questions i found, not worrying about the responses:.
***w50 12/1 p.496 questions from readers***.
in view of what deuteronomy 4:15-23 has to say about the making of any graven image, would it be considered scripturally correct.
Liars tell lies. Dishonesty is dishonest. Concealing the true origin of QFR is both.
im just gonna do a recount of what types of people we will find in hell:.
women with respect for themselves, natural scientists, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, hindus, everyone from the center to the far left of the political spectrum, homosexuals, sexually liberated people.. and what types of people we will find in heaven:.
sexually restrictive, far right, wife abusing christians.. i would pick hell any day.
Don't wish to go to HELL. There won't be card playing, beer keg parties, Rock concerts or chit chat with the atheist buddies just darkness and heat. Evangelist preachers say that nobody will go to Hell unless they choose to go there. Reconsider.
Paul
