how do you perceive the jws that had brought you into the wts, do you like them, resent them, are they still dubs or did they get out before you?
it would be nice if there are instances where those that brought people in later helped them leave.
i don't particularly like the dubs that got me in because i later realised they were doing everything to impress their superiors and get promoted, something they achieved as they got good bethel positions abroad.
the dubs that forced me into the wts are my parents, I have mixed feeling about them
I hate them forcing me into that religion and I hate the fact they are still part of it
I love them as they are my parents but I wonder how different our relationships and quality of life might have been
my brother and I now support each other and talk through all our issues and despair about our parents choices
do you particularly like, is it tudor history, ancient egyptian, greco-roman, medieval or something else?
i like the history of the second world war and i am trying to understand why a cultured and educated nation like the germans got swept away by the appeal of the beastly nazis.
I studied medical history and found it facinating, Edward Jenner, Louis Pastuer oh and of course the unforgettable Lady Mary Wortley Montegue!
this was added to the end of one of my threads, but for those of you that don't get all the way through....this looks fascinating.
i don't know if anyone has come across this or not but thought it might be helpful in researching jw's history.. r.. bible students online: bible student history.
a history of charles taze russell .
this is really interesting, thanks very much restrangled
I've saved it to my favorites so I'll have a good read, then I'll pass it on to my brother - I just wish I could think of a way to get my parents to read it
i was watching some youtube stuff yestersday and came across all the 2006 convention videos, and just watching them and hearing the songs and the dramas and seeing all the people dresses like they have for the last 20 years made me feel sick to my stomach, and all panicky....does this happen to anyone else?
when you see jw doing what you used to do, does it give you a little pts??
(post traumatic syndrome).
well I looked thru my parents photos of their visit to Prague, which I just assumed would be sight seeing pics,
next thing I know I'm thumbing thru all the bl**dy convention photos - I've not seen this sh*te for nearly 20 years and it all looked the same.
I just think, oh god how sad. Same old words, same old smily faces, same old drama (or pyjama as we called it on account of the costumes) just same old nonsense and a complete waste of time and effort - that's how it makes me feel.
It's amazing that they still manage to convince all these people to keep on doing all this shit
i left the dubs about 10 yrs ago.... but didn't celebrate xmas until about 7yrs ago.
even then i didn't get a tree... just kept it simple.. do it all now!
love it.. even if it's not christs birthday..... who cares?????
I love Christmas, probably because I was deprived of it as a child.
We usually try to go to Canada and celebrate it in the snowy mountains - it's magical!
Personally I wouldn't defile presents by wrapping them in trash wt publications!
Even if we go away for Christmas we always have a tree (the bigger the better), flashing lights, the lot and I put it all up right at the beginning of December. I'm thinking about having a tree at work as well!
it is interesting to read the posts here.
people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.
is this your purpose in coming here????.
come on scotsman, you're a crap jw aren't you? and you didn't go on the field service today did you naughty boy, I know it was raining but that's no excuse to stay at home and talk to apostates.
you know you shouldn't be here, this is an apostate site and you're living a double life. but the good news is that you can find the truth here.
you see most people here have the knowledge about your religion/cult/thing to be able to make informed decisions. You, unfortunately, know little about your own religion and you are happy to accept what people say to you (because you are brain washed) instead and doing some research. Are you not interested in how your religion was started? I know I was very surprised at the information I found out.
anyway good luck with the research and it's lovely that you are keen to spend time with us, some of us are real sinners you know and we could really influence you! ha ha ha
are you are true scotsman? bollocks!
we have our co visit this week.
you should see all the dubs appearing from nowhere, it's like jesus has come to visit.. .
last week we had about 75 in attendance at our tms/service meeting.
Oops. That title should read Visit.
I can't seem to edit it. How embarrassing... Oh, I thought there was something welsh about it, Look, it's the Circuit Overseer is it? Tidy bit of CO that! . . Baaaaa
how much should a man tolerate a girlfriend or wife that is very demanding on clothes/shoes and other articles such as perfumes, handbags etc?
is there a limit to what one should spend to keep them happy beyond which it becomes a case of them taking advantage?
hmmm, the words high maintenance come to mind
I despise females who demand funds from their partner to spend on themselves, the whole thing disgusts me. How can they have any pride.
I know a sister of a friend who married her husband because he is rich and she gets everything she wants but the downside is that she has to sleep with him ("ih well, I suppose I had better go and have sex with him") - there's a name for women like that isn't there?
I wouldn't expect anything from anyone and pay for everthing I need out of my own hard earned cash. If my bloke does buy things for me it is because he wants to and the gifts are entirely his choice.
Birthdays, Christmas and Valentines presents are great and it's lovely that he remembers but the best presents are the ones that he buys on the spur of the moment. I treasure these things, not because of their value but because he cared enough to make the effort and he chose the gift. Sometimes he comes home with a fleece for me because he knows I feel the cold - that just makes my day!
jehovah`s witness`s have a lack of real appreciation for life..no birthdays..no christmas..no need for education..no need for charity..little interaction with the outside world..shun family and friends..allow friends and family to suffer because of ever changing rules and policies of the wbt$..very little love for anything outside the wbt$..jehovah`s witness`s believe they will live forever..does believing they will live forever make them less appreciative of the life they are wasting?...outlaw
How sad. They tell themselves that they are happy.
or they tell themselves that they will be happy in paradise - they must be thinking that it will all be worth it.
I believe my father has wasted the best part of his life (40 years) with this religion and I resent the fact that he loves the religion more than he loves me and my brother. I imagine that we would be much closer if it had not been for this religion and that he would be the sort of devoted, loyal, committed father.
jws are living a wasteful life, they are putting things on hold because armageddon is just around the corner and there is no point living for today when they have a paradise to look forward to. What mugs, if only they knew they are wasting their lives.
I think about the young jws back in the 70s who were encouraged to pioneer and not worry about getting an education, career, pension, savings, property - what sort of situation are they in now? No provision for their retirement, no way of earning a living apart from menial jobs, no family, in rented accomodaiton and living a frugal life and still waiting for the promised armageddon, poor sods what suckers they have been and what a pointless crap life they have lived when you imagine what these people could have got out of life.
<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #b450ab; } .style2 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } --> the watchtower societya woman's perspective often times, i wondered how the sisters viewed the organization.. there will be two or three inquiries regarding this discussion so.
any information regarding it would be appreciated.. the way the sisters dressed according to the way the society viewed women what did you.
think about there standards regarding the dress code?.
as I was brought up a jw I didn't really have a huge issue with the way the society treated women as it was all I knew, I accepted that that was the way it had to be. Although I did find it a bit odd that sisters had to cover their heads and not talk to the audience when on the platform. As I grew older a did have big issues with clothes and the way I was expected to dress.
My mother however is a whole different story. She had massive issues with her lesser role and resented the fact that she could not progress within the organisation. The fact that my father was able to become ms, elder, school overseer, po, etc she got very jealous about and once she even made the elders tell him to stand down! I feel that she has used the religion as a way of controling her husband and children and to this end it has been hugely beneficial to her but it has not stopped her resenting the female issue.
She is not a typical female jw in the submissive way - she wears the trousers that's for sure!
Having been out so long, when I think about how jw women are expected to behave it just makes me laugh that in this day and age they go along with it
