I believe religion is holding us back Wow, it really held these Christians back:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science
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Staying a Christian Upon Leaving
by serotonin_wraith inso you found out the jehovah's witness religion/cult was bogus.
congratulations, it's a step in the right direction.
now all you have to do is escape the cult of christianity.. while other christian groups are (perhaps arguably) less controlling (on the whole), the foundation christianity rests on is bogus too.
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Staying a Christian Upon Leaving
by serotonin_wraith inso you found out the jehovah's witness religion/cult was bogus.
congratulations, it's a step in the right direction.
now all you have to do is escape the cult of christianity.. while other christian groups are (perhaps arguably) less controlling (on the whole), the foundation christianity rests on is bogus too.
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Sero: That's some proof to show the Bible is wrong. Can you present anything at all that shows it is the inspired word of the creator of the universe?
You make a common mistake in your line of argument Sero, you imply (actually I think you have been explicit in spots on that point) that if the Bible is false then God can not exist. The one does not necessarily imply the other. In fact the one does not imply the other at all. Contrary to some Christians (and I mean them no disrespect, if they end up being right it it does not affect me) I do not believe the Bible is THE revelation, but a book ABOUT the revelation of God to man. As such, it is a historical document reflecting the flaws and prejudices of ancient peoples (this does not make it untrue in essence). Many passages anthropomorphize God, assigning him human attributes, like getting angry etc. This is not really God, but what man saw of God in a more primitive state. The account of Creation was describerd in a cosmology that primitive middle eastern societies could understand. Our cosmology has evolved! But the core fact that the Universe was created and that Man exists in a state of separation from God does not. And we see a progression of mankind's understanding of God in that book. The revelation is progressive. If you don't believe me, compare the understanding of God in the first books of Scripture with those towards the end. Big difference!
The simple fact is that we humans, regardless of time or place or race or language or any other factor, have universally developed one or another form of religion and a belief in the supernatural. Humans of all religious traditions have had an encounter with something other than the physical, and they have attempted to develop a systematic understanding of that encounter, of that other realm. That itself is highly suggestive that there is an ultimate reality that we call God. To suggest otherwise is to essentially believe that the 98% of humanity that you do not belong to, the humanity that believes in something, is irrational and stupid.
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Yeah, we had some "dogs" here recently. This is Southwest Florida (my front yard) and this is last week.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1827658260806589168&hl=en
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A CALL TO ACTION: HIGH PRIORITY
by Wingman inhi everyone,.
a letter has been prepared by anonymous brothers to be sent to bodies of elders around the world.. of course this is a massive undertaking and we are asking for assistance from active and inactive ones around the world who share the sentiments of the letters contents.. your participation in this action indicates your sincere desire to see change within the organization that has become authoritarian in recent years.. we ask that the letter be addressed to "the body of elders" in each respective congregation.. please do not add any further information or commentary.. we are also relying on non-english speaking brothers to translate and distribute this letter.. it will not matter if more than one letter is received by each congregation.
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Actually, aren't all the Kingdom Halls already in the Yellow Pages, at least here in the US? How hard would it be to get a listing of all or most of them, especially now that we have the Internet? Aren't there marketing databases already out there (even if you have to $$)that would likely already contain this data? This could be doable!
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A CALL TO ACTION: HIGH PRIORITY
by Wingman inhi everyone,.
a letter has been prepared by anonymous brothers to be sent to bodies of elders around the world.. of course this is a massive undertaking and we are asking for assistance from active and inactive ones around the world who share the sentiments of the letters contents.. your participation in this action indicates your sincere desire to see change within the organization that has become authoritarian in recent years.. we ask that the letter be addressed to "the body of elders" in each respective congregation.. please do not add any further information or commentary.. we are also relying on non-english speaking brothers to translate and distribute this letter.. it will not matter if more than one letter is received by each congregation.
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It would be awesome if someone at the bOrg that had access to all the congo addresses "leaked".
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If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?
by minimus inlately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.
one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.
my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.
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One thing I dont do is argue or justify my thinking/feelings on subjects.
Then why bother to post them on a public forum?
I dont need the approval or validation. But thanks for the comments.
Your welcome.
Its great we are individuals and can show that in our thoughts and expressions.
Indeed. Has it ever been any other way?
Have a wonderful weekend Life is Good!
Same to you!
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If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?
by minimus inlately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.
one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.
my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.
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I do not claim to be nor would I want to try to attain to be in the category of 'a moral person'. To me I could care less about all that.
Wowsers. This post should be on a "best of" thread somewhere. All of us are not moral on some level or another, it goes with the territory of being human, but to put off all hope of even trying to attain it!
One thing I am is authentic.
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If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?
by minimus inlately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.
one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.
my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.
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It depends. If I know both parties and/or am friends with the hubby, I wouldn't do it as readily. If I don't know the hubby, or have a very low opinion of him, I'd have very few qualms helping his wife scratch her itch.
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If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?
by minimus inlately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.
one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.
my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.
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No. Never.
I'd put myself in the shoes of the other fellow. How would you feel if someone was cheating with your wife or husband?
Do unto others and all that good stuff.
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Oh that's rich!!!