Hi all! It's been a while since I've responded to anything. Hope all are well. I absolutely love Tolle. His bio online is pretty informative as well as his books. He does reference NT some, but only in a way to get the average disheartened Christian to open their minds. Does anyone relate to what he calls the "pain body"?
Posts by loli
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13Has anyone read any Echart Tolle?
by new boy in"the power of now".
"a new earth".
i must say both books blew me away.......................life changing!
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Realization about the Adam and Eve myth
by CordyC inas i looked at the adam and eve story again, i realized the something is wrong with the story.
jehovah offers the pair all the fruits in the garden of eden save the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.
there's a problem though, why would there be a fruit for that if bad supposedly wasn't around at that point yet?
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loli
Great point! Also, think of this: If god and his prophets are so accurate when fortelling details of the future (grain of salt!) Wouldn't god have known all the events that would soon unfold in the garden? If Adam and Eve did not know the concept of wrong or sin(before they ate), they actually did NOTHING WRONG by partaking of the fruit. Eating of the fruit is just a metaphor. (and Satan, and hell, and possibly god for that matter) Peace - Loli
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Did anyone really buy into the "Universal Sovereignty" issue?
by loli ini am new to the forum, but not new to jw indoctrination.
even as a child, i would ask myself, "why would the almighty creator need to prove anything to anyone, including him/her/itself?
really, one of the few scriptures that i do actually agree with is that 'god is love.
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loli
Really, then, once you think about it, why do people even gravitate to organized religion? After all, the WTS taught us how to poke holes in all other religions, so, now that we've shaken their core agenda, there doesn't seem to be any TRUE religion out there. Either you belive in god, or you don't. I think to use a religion to force you to "be good" insults the basic human tendency to just be the best person you can be. Imperfections and all, I know I'm a kind, and loving human being. I've just outgrown the notion that I have to be that way to please a cranky deity. Peace to all!
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If Satan is destroyed will another Satan be born?
by Morocco inthink about this one: the bible says one day satan, the father of all evils, will be destroyed and by extension all the sufferings of the spiritual creatures and physical creatures.
i know the jw's teach that jehovah is allowing evil in order to prove a moral point that he is the only one who can effectively rule this reality.
however, imagine a paradise on earth billions of years after the destruction of evil.
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loli
Here's a thought: It's all just a metaphor to explain "man's fall." If god is perfect, god needs nothing to complete him/her/itself. Cultures of all times in history have created god in THEIR IMAGE. Angry, intolerant, homophobic cultures created the same attributes in their god. As humanity became more and more civilized (using the term loosely) their god had less and less to punish. The whole Satan metaphor had to originate at a time when people needed to be dominated by fear. Look around objectively even in more liberal Christian beliefs (such as Unity) and many Eastern beliefs, and you will see no mention of an Entity that is the emodiment of evil - only a consciousness that permits it. Hopefully the end of "Satan" will mean a time of freedom from fear and an abundance of love and peace. Just an idea....
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Did anyone really buy into the "Universal Sovereignty" issue?
by loli ini am new to the forum, but not new to jw indoctrination.
even as a child, i would ask myself, "why would the almighty creator need to prove anything to anyone, including him/her/itself?
really, one of the few scriptures that i do actually agree with is that 'god is love.
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loli
My point exactly! Whatever "god" is, it is supposed to be PERFECT. Perfection needs nothing to make it complete. (including, in my opinion, actions, ceremonies, sacrifices from humans) thank you!!
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Nothing important.
by skyking inblinders have many uses for people, religious, political... but no matter the type of blinders, blinders are dangerous.
different people have different ideas, they are not stupid or dumb if their ideas happen to be different than yours.
hurtful words can be as damaging, as damaging as a person with blinders on.
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loli
Hi Skyking! Isn't difference of opinion what will hopefully raise everyone's awareness for the need to examine one's own beliefs? Please don't stop posting. I think this is a safe place to share thoughts and feeling in a tolerant way, am I right? I'm just a newbie.
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Did anyone really buy into the "Universal Sovereignty" issue?
by loli ini am new to the forum, but not new to jw indoctrination.
even as a child, i would ask myself, "why would the almighty creator need to prove anything to anyone, including him/her/itself?
really, one of the few scriptures that i do actually agree with is that 'god is love.
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loli
killin' those threads again
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You all are going to LOVE this!
by restrangled inmy husband and i went up to the new renovated park in our area.
it is over a mile around and very beautiful.. anyway, we meandered over and sat down.
within 3 minutes we were approached by jw's.
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loli
Go Hubby! Go Hubby! You are blessed, my friend!
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PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME A NEW FRIEND
by schne_belly incalico ethel.... one of my best friends!!!
glad you joined us!!!
now you can see for yourself why i talk about jwd and all the sweet people on here!
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loli
Hello Calico! You are among friends.
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Angels and Demons
by Legolas insince i hate hitting the 'active topics' button and there is only one topic on the page, i have dial up and it's a pain in the a$$ to wait again to go to the next page..lol, i made this thread!
i am here to tell you that i recommend the book 'angels and demons' by dan brown!...that's it!
has anyone read it?.
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loli
Okay, so to the people who have read Dan Brown's books, and if the subject matter even remotely caused you to think....the question is: There was a lot of cover-up/authority/politcal agenda in the first few centuries among Jesus' followers. The Romanization of Christianity and the 4th century edits of the bible altered pretty much everything pertaining to Jesus. Why can anyone be confident in the bible at all? The writings that competed with the orthodox (later Catholic) views were destroyed. Some were found in recent history, like the Dead Sea scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Library and they are VERY different than the canonical scriptures.