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  funny... I dont feel any different...

  by IP_SEC in

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  i guess even though im supreme now i'll stay the same ol' ip attention 'ho.. love me or hate me .

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  oh quit your braggin'!
  
  I still can't put your name with your new pic.....
  
  congrats oh supreme master!
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  Adventures in Meditating......

  by freedomloverr in

  1. jw
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  i know a lot of you do meditation and i thought i would share a recent experience with you all.

  it's been almost 2 years since i left the mental bondage of the org.

  and it's been a journey with lots of twists and turns.

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  *****Yesterday my hubby and I sat under an old oak tree and watched the sun setting - we both lapsed into a quiet meditative state. A couple of birds joined us and sat very still gazing at the sun, a slight wind ruffled the leaves.
  
  It was an amazing experience - time seemed to stand still - we could have been 100 yrs in the past or in the future. It felt sacred and divine, the earth a mother and the sun a father. I felt overwhelmingly grateful for such gifts. Going back this evening****
  
  
  nice! ;)
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  christendom and war

  by TIMBOB in

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  went to the bookstudy this morning.

  the study talked about false religion and war and how other religions are killing each other and also jw's for not going to war.

  there was many comment of how many early jw's served time or were executed for not going to war.

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  this is something that many jw's have used as an argument to show they are the true religion. I don't know if you've read "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz yet, but what happened with the witnesses in Mexico/Malawi in the 80's shows how hypocritcal the witnesses statement of "we don't go to war" really is.
  
  There are many individuals who make a conscience choice to not go to war and they are not jw's. I personally know budhists, and xian's who wouldn't go to war and they'd face the consequences of that choice.
  
  The FDS/governing body have been *sleeping with the enemy* for many years. One example is not allowing jw's to join the YMCA just so you can use a swimming pool, yet they had a membership with the UN and their reason was "so we could use their library." Hypocritcal?
  
  They have tremendous blood guilt on their hands even if they never let their followers kill one person in a war. How many have died because of their ever-changing rules on immunizations, organ transplants, blood transfusions, etc.? What about people who have committed suicide because of the horror of being disfellowshipped and having every one in their lives cut off from them and then they didn't know how to cope?
  
  keep researching and reading. it becomes clearer with all the knowledge you keep gaining. you are on a good path.
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  What's New with Me in the "Real World"? Turns Out Real World Ain't That Fun

  by Good Girl or Bad Girl? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's my self-centered little update post.

  after seeing all the hardships so many here are enduring, it helps put my little "problems" into perspective.

  but i'm posting this lil' update anyway, not because i want the attention or want people to feel sorry for me, but because i feel a strong connection to this board and the people here and every so often want to let y'all know what is up with me, and indirectly, what is up with mike/openfireglass, as he is not (at the moment) interested in spending any time online.

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  thanks for the update. been wondering how you both were....
  
  sorry you've had such a crazy week. it's really great that you and Mike can support eachother through all this though.
  
  here's to a better week ahead of you - cheers!
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  Adventures in Meditating......

  by freedomloverr in

  1. jw
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  i know a lot of you do meditation and i thought i would share a recent experience with you all.

  it's been almost 2 years since i left the mental bondage of the org.

  and it's been a journey with lots of twists and turns.

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  freedomloverr

  POPPERS:
  
  ***Simply watch it come and go. You ARE this witnessing consciousness. This can be quite entertaining as your alertness to the arising of thought sharpens with practice.***
  
  this is what my meditating has grown to. I find that space between time where you can feel the the REAL you divine. thank you for sharing all those meditating ideas.
  
  
  HORTENSIA:
  
  I understand what you are talking about. I read info. about walking meditation and was really intrigued by it. You are right, you don't have to be seated to meditate. I find I can meditate with any practice that requires me to be quiet and have some sort of repetitive motion. washing the dishes, doing an art project, raking leaves, etc.
  
  
  BSofM:
  
  nice experience! ha! I remember being scared to do yoga also when I was a dub. I love being able to do such *demonized* things now and gain so much from such experiences.
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  Sad News Orangefatcat's husband died this morning.

  by orangefatcat in

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  this is one of the sadest days in my life, my beloved husband marco passed away this morning at 5:15 am.. it has been a dreadful day.

  but my dear friend was with most of the day while we went togerther to make funeral arrangements.. that was really hard on me.

  i have done nothing but cry and cry all day, i finally fell asleep a few hours ago while my friend diane was here and she let me sleep.

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  (((orangefatcat))))
  
  I am so very sorry. I don't know what to say...
  
  I'm sending a big hug and love to you tonight.
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  Adventures in Meditating......

  by freedomloverr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know a lot of you do meditation and i thought i would share a recent experience with you all.

  it's been almost 2 years since i left the mental bondage of the org.

  and it's been a journey with lots of twists and turns.

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  IP-SEC : a kundalini release huh? I'll go google it and find out what they say....
  
  Missanna: I find it the most therapeutic thing in my life to deal with stress but also it's a tool to reach differnt levels of spirituality, at least for me it is. try it out. it does work best when it's done regularly and you truly enjoy it. it doesn't work if you are *forcing* yourself in any way.....
  
  let me know how it goes.
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  they are no longer shunning me....

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  i am shunning them.. after some recent developments with my family, and resulting anxiety, i am now the one who has made it clear i want no contact with them.. i am making this clear because i can't say at this point that they are shunning me and i won't claim that anymore.. i did this for the sake of my own sanity (no comments please) and because i need to move on with life without organizational bullshit games that are designed to manipulate and isolate people.. i am not advocating this, i am not saying that this is right and good, it was what i needed to do to survive.. over the winter, i had made this decision, wrote a letter, but could never muster up the courage to do it.. today on the phone, after being told that the reason i could not have family support while hannah had been having her health issues was because they didn't want to offend jehovah, i told my mother that was why i want nothing else to do with any of them.. and that was the end of the conversation.. so..the end i guess.

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  I have had to take the same approach also. It is heartbreaking and yet freeing. You can't have a reasonable and respectful relationship with someone who is so disrespectful to you as a human being.
  
  I hope it helps you feel more emotionally in control. I know it did for me.
  
  ((((BSofM)))
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  Adventures in Meditating......

  by freedomloverr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know a lot of you do meditation and i thought i would share a recent experience with you all.

  it's been almost 2 years since i left the mental bondage of the org.

  and it's been a journey with lots of twists and turns.

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  freedomloverr

  man Frankie, how do you come up with all those u-tube clips? I've been watching all the ones you posted on the physcedelic mind thread also. so circular breathing huh? cool.
  
  
  ANTI-CHRIST: wow. free dive to 60 feet. that's intense. I scuba but don't really know how I feel about free diving yet.
  
  I would recommend trying different viewpoints on the meditation thing. things that worked for me didn't work for other people. I find that doing some simple yoga stretches and then meditating helps me. start small and don't worry if you're doing it *right*. Find a quiet, private place,(the same place each day helps me) and then find a comfortable position. somewhat upright rathering than laying down. and breathe.... concentrate on just your breath. in and out. see how long it takes for your mind to wander and then gently bring it back to your breath..
  
  practicing regularly is what will bring long term results.
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  Isn't Jehovah a wonderful God?

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i look around at all the people in the world, i'm comforted to know that jehovah will soon destroy them.. i'm talking about people that don't attend our encouraging christian meetings.

  yes, people that don't zealously participate in the preaching of the good news.

  'what good news?

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  he he he...LOL! at this thread...
  
  I love sarcasm!
  
  GBL - LMAO! Leviticus is one messed up trip huh?