comments you will not hear at the 10-20-02 wt study.
"without an illustration he would not speak to them"matthew 13:34. introduction.
"can you recall an illustration you heard, perhaps in a public discourse, many years ago?
great post blondie.
at the beginning of your post you asked for an illustration that we heard that did not fit in with the talk. I was trying to think of one and came up blank. they have gotten so lame that they are all bad. I went to a convention a couple of months ago and only heard one that actually tied in with the rest of the talk. all of the rest I seened to zone out.
i have a friend who is studying with the jw's right now.
he's a very open minded guy and has been interested in hearing what i have to say on the matter.
he has seen the dateline show (i taped it for him) - and i've shown him some info about the history.
Swan
I conducted a number of searches to see if there is any literature out there to support a 607 BCE date for the destruction of Jerusalem and couldn't find it. I even put a bone out there for one of the Brothers, that if he could show me where they had come up with that date, and it was supported, I would start a bible study. After a month of diligent searching, by him and his wife, I recieved a number of answers, none of which said why they chose thier date over the one that the rest of the world uses.
i have noticed that in the last few months the issue of giving more donations, because the wachtower needs it has become more popular.
the convention that we went to this summer had three references to the poor lady who gave all that she had to give.
last night we had a very boring talk about how little we give as compared to how much we recieve from the tower.
I have noticed that in the last few months the issue of giving more donations, because the wachtower needs it has become more popular. the convention that we went to this summer had three references to the poor lady who gave all that she had to give. Last night we had a very boring talk about how little we give as compared to how much we recieve from the tower. When I first started, this decent into hell, I was told that one way that you could tell that this is god's organization is because it is doing so well without donations. I don't believe that to be so anymore. I am also wondering if they are going to start passing a hat around or requiring a portion of our paycheck. Could this still be god's organization because it is struggling? (joke)
anyone know the latest on the hostages in the phillipines?
we are working on a segment for church this weekend and i would like to bring this out.
last i heard was that two had been murdered.
I heard that this was just another sign of the end. 'Now, god's organization is being attaacked worldwide'. Nevermind that this is not the first time that a religious group has been held hostage in the Phillipines.
some here have been privy to certain scandals such as pedophilia in your congregation.
we have never had such a scandal in our area that became well-known.
one of the worst scandals i've heard was that of how 2 elders terrorized an entire congregation.anybody that disagreed with them, was considered disloyal.
An elder that owned a sand and gravel company that would screw everybody that he dealt with including his brothers and sisters. But, since he gave such good council and he mneant to do good, everybody used him, and recommended him
when i left the religion, i walked away and did not get df'ed or da myself.
in doing so, my wife left the religion at the same time.
in our life we have been very nonwitness in our life.
by not disfellowshipping the people that just walk away the numbers will stay high, giving people a false sense that there are more witnesses than there really are. Maybe only 4 million as compared to the 6 million that they claim.
if you asked a jw, who jehovahs witness were patterned after, they would all answer, the first century cong.
i also would have answered that way, when i was a dub.
but when reading my elder book, i found this:
I believe that one of the history books that the watchtower puts out exxplains that Russel's parents were 7th day adventists (I think), or one of the end of the world churches. It had always been rumored that they took aa lot of thier beliefs from that church, and then they came out with thier own book showing that russel had direct ties. Of course, you can't tell a JW that thier churcch is just a spinoff. They will tell you that they are "patterned after the origional Israelites".
the lower requirements of the wt has been brought up from time to time.
i thought i would summarize the ones i know of.
1. conventions used to be one week and go from early morning til late at night.
they have changed thier requirements on blood transfusions.
i didn't get to hear the talk about not listening to television articles (dateline)about the borg or reading internet articles that might undermine the good news.
but i did notice some other issues that seem to be highlighted.. contributions must be down.
there must have been three references to the widow woman who only gave 2 coins to the collection, but that was everything that she had.
I didn't get to hear the talk about not listening to television articles (dateline)about the borg or reading internet articles that might undermine the good news. But I did notice some other issues that seem to be highlighted.
contributions must be down. there must have been three references to the widow woman who only gave 2 coins to the collection, but that was everything that she had. YUCK, YUCK.
I had to hear how cheating on my wife is unpleasing to god, or anybody cheating on their spouse, and that we could bring home diseases to our family. Is this a propblem.
There were two talks that were aimed at getting the youth out into the service, and why it is so good for them. Along with a few handpicked personal experiences on how it has improved peoples lives.
last night 3 congregations met at the assembly hall for the memorial.
there were just a little over 800 there which really surprised me.
in past years every congregation around here usually had at least 300 in attendance.
I would like to see the final number that attended. up or down?
