Posts by drawcad

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How Many Feel That The Bible Is Not "Inspired" After All???

by minimus in

so many do quote a scripture to make a point against an idea, yet i see that a number do not seem to believe in the bible's inspiration, anyway.

so, do you believe that the bible is god's inspired word??

?

drawcad_1

I really lost my faith in the bible when we started studying the orange book. It talked about the science of the bible (pure garbage), how it had been faithfully copied through the ages (by men who did and did not make changes), and how acurate the prophesies are (even though many were or could have been written after the fact). Thank you Watchtower for giving me a book that opened my eyes.

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Did Jesus Christ exist at all?

by Tyler in

some of my comments (and that of others) on other threads have highlighted a basic differance between those of us who belieave jesus christ did exist, and those of us who recon he did not.

i belieave jesus as described in the gospells did not exist.

so i decided to start a thread that adresses this issue face on.

drawcad_1

good points speedy3.

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Did Jesus Christ exist at all?

by Tyler in

some of my comments (and that of others) on other threads have highlighted a basic differance between those of us who belieave jesus christ did exist, and those of us who recon he did not.

i belieave jesus as described in the gospells did not exist.

so i decided to start a thread that adresses this issue face on.

drawcad_1

Since, the gospels were written after 70 CE and not by the people that are given credit for them (the gospel of Mathew was not written by the apostle Mathew etc.). Also, the gospel of Luke states that all of the information comes from second hand sources I do not see how the references made about Jesus could be given much respect. Paul never saw Jesus except in a heat induced delusional vision and was just writting down what he had heard or he felt was true about Jesus and most of his writtings are earlier than the Gospels.

To say that Jesus must be true, because other characters mentioned in the gospels are known to have exsisted would allow us to say that many characters in Greek mythology are also true. Many times fables are made up around actual events in world history.

If you include the quote from Josephus it is because you are grasping for straws and have not read any debates on the issue. He was not contemporary, the quote does not appear in earlier translations, he was a devout jew who called Jesus the Christ, he only gave the Christ a couple of sentences yet gave other messiahs whole chapters.

that all said and off of my chest. I do believe a man named Jesus was alive and might have provoked some of the writtings, but I do not think he was anywhere near what is portrayed in the Gospels.

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The WTS, Downsizing and Contributions.

by hillary_step in

jw
friends

as most of you may have gathered, the past couple of years have seen some major downsizing in wts expenditure, not just overseas but in the us and canada, including the sale of some buildings.

building projects have been shelved, some half-way completed.

every congregation around the world was instructed to upgrade kindgom halls, probably for the purposes of asset protection, as the trustees of khs are only trustees *for* the wts.

drawcad_1

sounds good to me. party time.

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Creation Stories

by JosephAlward in

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where do the bible-believers in this forum stand on the genesis creation?

is it one story told by one author, the same story told twice with different emphasis by the same author, the same story told twice with different emphasis by two different authors, or two different stories told by two different authors, or two different--and conflicting--stories told by two different authors?

drawcad_1

reading the story without any JW guidance, without all of thier books and misc., it seems like it is two stories made by two different authors.

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Little Known Fact

by Francois in

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friends

from frank's compendium of little-known and useless information:.

there are no empty tabasco sauce bottles...anywhere in the world.

got your own little known facts?

drawcad_1

why is wall to wall carpeting only found on the floor?

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assembly notes

by integ in

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friends

i had the "priviliage" of attending the 3 days of the "give god glory" convention.

for those interested, i will be posting some observations.

in one of the first talks, the speaker interviewed a young one, who gave his "experience" of being on the internet and being "seduced" by the pornography so readily available there.

drawcad_1

Any other assembly notes? any other highlights, other than the closing prayer on Sunday?

Don't tell me that they did not ask for money. How many times did they talk about the widow that gave everything that she had.

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Your favorite Dub Family Quotes

by johnathanseagull in

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friends

feeling particularly synical this eve.............here are mine, no particular order or context, what are yours?.

"at least we are good people".

"tut goat" .

drawcad_1

Reborn: that is a tough one. I am glad that you can look back at the painfull things your family said and contribute them to this forum. sometime the words utered by the family can be the worst.

I love to hear," our children are the happiest in the world", from dubs without children.

"a sure sign that the end is near", for every disaster, epidemic, and postal rate increase.

"the truth" verb or noun?

"we can reason this out", which means that there is no support for this "light"

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