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  2015 Convention Reminders Video!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  credit goes to mike & kim.. .. https://youtu.be/yj3x6wjrsaq .

  .. .. atlantis!.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Up until about a year ago I was still being used as an attendant. let me tell you something, witnesses are HUGE assholes. We make them out to be way more behaved than the "world". But the reality is at assemblies they are as big if not bigger assholes than anyone else. Also completely untitled, not obedient AT ALL. Some of the biggest do-good righteous people in the org who would condemn you for just about anything, are some of the most selfish arrogant people.

  
  

  While I tend to agree, I also see so much ridiculous mind-control here. Implant the idea that you should look so ashamed that you arrived late and would be so distracting standing there needing an attendant to find you a seat during the program. Implant the idea that not being in your seat at 9:20 is not showing proper "appreciation" for what is provided.

  It's all about the fact that this is a wonderful thing that was provided by your wonderful organization, and wearing the wrong thing, bringing a large cooler or buying your lunch, dressing casual at the hotel, etc. etc. etc. is terrible. And obedience to the Watchtower's rules, not the Bible's, is a way for members to apply a Bible scripture. Ya see what they did there? Watchtower makes these endless rules and members are violating the Bible by not going along. I used to have to travel by air to my assigned convention because I was in a foreign language congregation. Bringing coolers and going to the grocer for lunch items was just so impractical. Was I actually violating a scriptural command, along with thousands of others doing similarly, by walking to the deli within a block of the Stanley Theater and buying some sandwiches?

  "Leave a tip for the housekeeper." I tend to agree with that statement, but Watchtower plants that idea in your head because the staff at the hotel remembers that it is Watchtower people that do that and not others. Sure, it's a good thing like many of their reminders, but they sure go a long way in insisting on these things. Could you imagine a traveling company representative from some other entity being treated like a child by the bosses with such a video? "Make sure to wear your company logo badge and look neat on your own time, and don't fill your cooler from their ice machine. We want them to know that Cisco Systems people are the best and then they will offer us two free rooms for our people when we promise to fill their hotel with paid guests."

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  + Ted Kennedy to drive me home over a bridge from a party.
  (Poor taste) + A flight on a Malaysian Airliner
  + An arsonist with my lighter
  + A lion to watch my rabbit
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  When will JW.ORG appear on convention name tags?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not seen the logo on a name tag, yet.. will this year be the first time jws are encouraged to walk around advertising a web site?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Great laughs at this thread.

  I don't think they will put jw . org on the badge for awhile.

  There's still plenty of opportunity to sell other stuff with it on there- ties, jewelry, tote bags, umbrellas.
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  The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.

  this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.

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  Watchtower does have a cash flow problem, but they are far from broke.

  True, they can't sell buildings at profits forever, but they still have Assembly Halls and Kingdom Halls when they run out of Headquarters and branch buildings. They've taken the money away from congregations and they have cheapened their free offerings to the public and probably reduced the actual amount of printed materials going out.

  It'll be a long haul. Eventually, the negative cash flow will catch up.
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  + Bernie Madoff with my life savings

  + Chris Christie with my pizza

  Those two are great.

  One more:

  + Rick Fearon
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  I stole this, from of all places, Rick Fearon. I don't know who he stole it from. Please think of more.
  
  

  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body
  
  + The media
  + Mexican tap water
  + Cappuccino from Bill Cosby
  + A Bigfoot sighting
  + A politician who says "Trust me"
  + An Al Qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs
  + A Hillary Clinton War story
  + Bill Clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school
  + Gas station sushi
  + A Brian Williams or Bill O'rielly news report
  + Email from a Nigerian prince
  

  
  
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  Trapped.

  by trapped28 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i write this,im aware of my heart hammering in my chest.ok where shall i start,ill try to keep this as short as possible.ive never been religious before in my life,the occasional wedding or funeral was the only time ive been in a church or viewed a bibles cover.in 2013 my step-dad was diagnosed with cancer and had to go for an operation to remove the tumor.i became close to his nephew and we communicated a lot and had a few strong feelings for each other,but neither of us told anyone,it was just harmless flirting and a few hugs that lasted a bit longer than normal.two days after my dads operation,he died through complications,and my path of self destruct was set.my boss had also been sexually harassing me at work and i was unfairly dismissed and was told by my landlord that i was to pay the rent or be evicted.then out of the blue my cousin tells me he was an unbaptised publisher (he was baptised at the aug convention last year)and to start having faith in god,that it would all work out.so i went to a kh and took up a study.that was a year ago and they now feel im ready to become a publisher.the thing is..i was made homless and am living with a jw of 50 years,a real spiritual person.these last two months ive been researching and i simply like you all disagree with so much of it.for the past twi weeks ive avoided meetings because of work,or pretended im at work and stayed away from the home i have with this witness.i cant afford to leave but at same time im being pushed to go into ministry and meetings.guys what the hell am i going to do?im so trapped scared and i cant believe i wanted to get baptised!

  !my son lives with his dad and there trying to get a hold on him when he visits me!

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  The number one advice is "DO NOT GET BAPTIZED." Yes.

  But also, you don't have to be on the Ministry school or a regular publisher. If they gave you a school part, panic and cancel. "I can't do it." Simple as that.

  And simply say "I am not ready yet" to the ministry and turning in time. Don't let them dictate terms. You can drag your feet.
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Assist With Disaster Relief? (In Nepal)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do jehovahs witnesses assist with disaster relief in nepal?.

  http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/assist-with-disaster-relief/.

  what say ye?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  For the roughly 2000 JW's in Nepal, I can imagine that Watchtower will try to milk between half a million dollars and two million dollars out of the European and United States members.

  One of the ways donations sent to the branch offices of Jehovah’s Witnesses are used is to relieve victims of disasters. (Acts 11:27-30;2 Corinthians 8:13-15) Since the work is performed by unpaid volunteers, the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses. We are careful with all donations.—2 Corinthians 8:20.

  From their own words, ONE of the ways money is used is to relieve victims. If the Kingdom Halls are damaged, they will get the buildings back up. They will offer to help these victims some. I could imagine some $300,000 being spent. The rest goes in their pockets.

  And I love how they brag that funds go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses. They brag by mentioning that the workers are unpaid volunteers. Yeah, the goodness of people keeps expenses down. And all this means is that any money that finds it's way to relief has little administrative expenses attached. They don't mention how much money the disaster raises and how much is spent on actual relief.

  I am sorry. This is a sore spot for me. Good people want to help and Watchtower makes it a cash cow.
  
  
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  Kind of looking for a quick update

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been out of the religion since 1996. i used to come to former witness boards a lot in the distant past, and then i lost interest in the subject.

  however, with a couple relatives still in and passing the 1914 one hundred year mark, i find myself looking to see what a modern jehovah's witness is believing.

  could i get kind of an update on some things.

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  OnTheWayOut

  While they still believe the end could come any minute, they now teach that the "generation" in the Bible was one that started with anointed seeing the beginning of the sign about 1914 and includes the lifetime of other anointed ones whose lifespan overlaps theirs and continue's until the last part of the sign. (Yes, it makes no sense.) They don't really talk about how much time has passed except that it's short to Jehovah.

  The work is done, the work goes on. They say it all. There was something about community responsibility, which means if China prevents the preaching, all the Chinese destroyed by God is on them, not him. Similar to a child destroyed because his parents rejected the doctrine.

  the growth is tiny tiny tiny. Might soon be fictional. They act like they are growing. If they ever report negative numbers, they will probably say its evidence that the time is near.

  While the 7 Governing Body members are the leaders, and more visible than they used to be, appearing on video on the Internet, lawyers probably make all the final decisions.

  they could not beat off the Internet and embrace it now. They seem to be totally reinventing themselves as jw . Or and will be completely different from their past eventually.
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  CO says "WE ARE NOW AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!"

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  40-50 years after saying "armegeddon is right around the corner" we are now making progress!!!.

  gotta have a sense of humor to deal with this stuff..

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  CO says "WE ARE NOW AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!"

  Oh yeah, I meant the FIRST THRESHOLD.

  The crossing of the threshold is the point of no return, which is important to understand. Watchtower's doctrine has taken us to (maybe past) the first threshold and crossing it means there is no turning back. At least that's what they want you to think. You were fooled, you have too much invested in "soon" and you must believe it will really happen any any any moment now. Members are like the gambler at roulette playing red (when you should always bet on black). If he just keeps doubling down every time he loses, he will eventually win. Before he knows it, he's betting an entire life's savings.