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  Still trying to cope with my new situation (wife woke up, cheated and left)

  by nevaagain in

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  as you probably might know already, i already posted some lengthy posts about my situation,here: part 1 and here: part 2 is here.. to make it short, four weeks ago, my wife confessed that she cheated on me and immediately went upstairs to pack and to leave.

  this was planned from beforehand because she already managed for an apartment in a different city and a job there.

  the next day she sent an email to the elders out confessing of her wrong doings and wishing to get disassociated.. as a reason why she left, she told me, that we should have never married, because we don't fit together.

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  OnTheWayOut

  When she woke up, she wanted a different life, without her marriage mate. Which means, she probably didn't love me to begin with. The conclusion for me is, probably it is better that way.

  Slow down there. She probably did love you to begin with, but you were two different people in that cult than you became later. But the conclusion is right- it is better that way.
  
  Stuckinarut2 and Just Fine have some great thoughts in earlier post above.

  Regardless of your situation with the religion, look for a quicker way to "move on" there also and find your happiness elsewhere.
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  It won’t be much longer now.

  by Tameria2001 in

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  2. friends

  a couple weeks back my husband got a phone call from his brother, whom he hasn’t spoken to in nearly 17 years.

  well i take that back, he did speak to him at the family reunion, asking him to leave.

  my husband basically told him to f off, he would leave when he’s darn good and ready, but he didn’t use the word darn.

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  I read your opening post and am not sure what kind of reaction you are going fir at a funeral.

  But I did immediately think that wearing a cross or a pin with an angel or some kind of Jesus button would be great. A flying spaghetti monster would not be understood, but a Jesus fish might be. Or some kind of LBGT pin.
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  Helped with fathers funeral, helped with arranging care for my mother - then SHUNNED again!!

  by EssexBoy1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well i have not been on this site for ages - so long that i had forgotten my username etc and have had to start again!.

  anyway briefly - bought up in 'the truth', baptised at 18, married at 21, had kids, got divorced, remarried, disfellowshipped 15 years ago.. parents and brother shun me.. early last year father very ill, calls me.

  i arrange to visit him in hospital.

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  So sorry to read of your family treatment.

  You would know your mother better than us. If she really wants to do as Watchtower commands and if visiting her is out of the question, then so be it. I would just be sure which is better- visiting and upsetting your brother or doing as asked. Your mother is ill and might actually appreciate visits. But you should know for yourself.

  Were it me, I would have to be sure to keep abiding by that decision even if she outlives her money, even if she needs greater care, even with her eventual funeral. People will expect you to come through with aid/money after treating you like dirt. I would not respond. You know that your brother will have nothing to do with you either way.
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  Russia's Supreme Court shuts down Church of Scientology

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  russian church welcomes shutdown of "moscow church of scientology".

  moscow, july 1, interfax - the russian orthodox church has welcomed a ruling by the russian supreme court which yesterday upheld the legality of a shutdown of the "church of scientology of moscow".

  "the upholding by the supreme court of the legality of the shutdown of the so-called church of scientology is seen as an important precedent demonstrating the state's determination not to recognize as religious those organizations that use people's religious feeling for malign purposes, " russian orthodox church spokesman vakhtang kipshidze told interfax-religion.the ruling in the scientologists' case is not a breach of the religious freedom since "it was proved in court that the very activity of this organization is an affront to human freedom as such," kipshidze said.the russian orthodox church regularly comes into contact with people whose membership in totalitarian sects left them deeply wounded spiritually and mentally, ruined their lives and happiness, the spokesman said.

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  If JW's were right (and they are not), government turns on false religion before true religion. I guess Watchtower and Scientology are shown to be in the first group.
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  Since My Mom's Death--not a JW in sight !

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i had one lovebombing when she died by the congregation and since then---- nada.

  lol.

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  I agree with Perry- maybe a new church.

  (I cannnot get a pentagram up from my smart phone.)
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  Happy birthday to me

  by azor in

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  2. friends

  i just turned 41 today.

  last year was my first celebration at 40. half my life is lost to this cult and i celebrate by almost losing my job.

  one of the only things i have left.

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  Happy birthday to you. Live into your 90's or more so that the greatest percentage wss not as a JW.
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  Guess who is getting announced as no longer being a JW

  by atacrossroads in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not me surprisingly.

  i thought i would be the one to go first.

  this coming week my hubby is being announced as no longer being a jw.

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  Congratulations to you and your family. I don't have children, but highly agree with your husband that I would want any child to grow up without any of the JW garbage put upon them.
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  I'm disfellowshipped BUT working my way back

  by Want to serve in

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  i figured i would try this out.

  i'm currently disfellowshiped but working my way back.

  i was wondering if i am the only one?

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  Pictures? Measurements? Income? Do you own your home? All important questions.

  No, seriously- I get what you are asking. That's a tough guy to find. Are you working your way back because you believe the doctrine or because of family? Do you want this guy to be a secret atheist or a believer?
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  Are we in a computer simulation?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

  consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

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  Maybe I will watch that later, Brokeback.

  I want to say that it doesn't matter. The vast majority of us are not going to live carefully(strive to be entertaining and praiseworthy ) just in case we are in a simulation. So all I know is this life, real or not. It feels real, so I have to live as if it is.

  Another obscure philosophy is that I am real and you all are simulations to distract me. Or perhaps I am a brain in a vat and you all are just electronic stimulation to my brain.

  YADDA YADDA YADDA.

  In all these cases, I must live as if it is all real and not worry about such things.
  
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  Musicians Who Died in the Last Year - or Through the Years- Who Do you Miss Most ?

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i think for me in the last year the death of david bowie got to me the most.

  not only in the way he handled his demise so classy by even making a song about it and a you tube about dying and sharing it with fans, but just his whole persona i always thought was pretty cool.

  plus i enjoyed a good many of his songs.

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  Of the recent ones, Glenn Fry and David Bowie were very much a part of my music in my teens and 20's. I kind of figured I would be able to catch The Eagles in concert before they all went their ways.