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  The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet

  by The Quiet One in

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  regarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.

  but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.

  that would clearly have been a mistake.

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  The old "I didn't say God said it" excuse.
  Why let a false prophet define what a false prophet is. (I know that, technically, you are trying to let the Bible define it, but you are using Watchtower lies to narrowly fit into the Bible's terms.)
  
  Wiki definition for "False Prophet"
  In religion, a false prophet is a person who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration, or to speak for God, or who makes such claims for evil ends.
  
  Watchtower wants to have the cake and eat it too with their bogus "spirit-directed" instead of "inspired" crap.
  "Spirit directed" basically means to them, "We speak for God and are always right, but in case we change our minds or are wrong, we are not infallible prophets. We are prophets when we tell you things, but not prophets when it blows up in our faces."
  
  This is just cult stuff. They speak for God. If you want to separate the GB from the corporation altogether, they still claim it is God's Organization. (I know they say "Spirit-directed organization" but that's just the same crap.)
  
  As pointed out in this old thread, many a times have they said they are God's mouthpiece or words exactly to that effect.
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  South Lake Tahoe Apostafest

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if there is an apostafest scheduled this year of 2021/.

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  OnTheWayOut

  There was no Tahoe Fest last year nor this year.
  
  Planning would have had to take place months ago and restrictions were still unknown for July several months ago.
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  What would happen if the Watchtower decided no more meeting at Kingdom Halls, only Zoom?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m seeing my hard core believing relatives slowly losing faith that the watchtower is the organization that “god” is using to represent him on earth.. just about all the churches in their area have opened up.. but not the watchtower.. this is having an affect on the faith of even the old timers.

  now the only ones who are still holding the faith are the female jws and only those past 70 years of age.

  even my old male jw relative past 70 are starting to say that it can’t be jehovah’s organization because the other churches are all open and god supposed organization who is supposed to preach the warning message is still closed with no open in sight.

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  I am just speculating, but Watchtower may be pleased to shake out the rif raf. People that "won't go back" just don't donate enough money. Let the Kingdom Hall sales continue.
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  Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good pick?

  bad pick?

  helpful to president biden?

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  The powers that pull the Dems strings won't let Harris pick a woman running mate for 2024, let alone Ilhan Omar.
  Harris was chosen by the same string-pullers to get the black vote for Joe without really offering anything the progressives want.
  
  It is time to push and demand that the parties offer real candidates or break up the party system. I prefer the break up, but I don't see the powers that be allowing that.
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  Do You Think Trump Will Make A Comeback?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think he could get reinstated as president?

  do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Otwo, regarding your analysis, nothing Trump did was illegal. Stop look’ing at CNN and the lens of msnbc.
  
  You know very well that it is a violation of a provision of the Constitution, but that it would take Congress to impeach the president for such a violation. So you know it is not something that will get a warrant for your arrest. You also know why there is an emoluments clause and you know that Trump did violate it and you know why he did.
  
  Saying this on your thread is like talking to the Evangelical religious right who pretend Donald did not have sex with a porn star. If your guy violates the emoluments clause, then he is smart to do so. I don't defend Joe Biden on what happened with Hunter. I am sure it was wrong, if not illegal. But you turn a blind eye to far worse with Donald Trump.
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  Will there be a sense of urgency in 30 years?

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  it's pretty easy to see how current events would have any jw convinced the end is imminent, but i just don't see how there could be a major push for zealous service, pioneering, etc.

  decades into the future.

  even if (when) world events happen periodically that could scare the r&f, there are now countless hours of hd video of jw leaders saying how close the end is.

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  If your question was 30 years old, the sense of urgency was escaping them even then.
  
  Except for a handful of pioneer sisters, the sense of urgency is dead.
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  Do You Think Trump Will Make A Comeback?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think he could get reinstated as president?

  do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Min: Regarding if he runs again you say he can steal more money this way, what money did he steal as POTUS?

  
  

  Violating the foreign emoluments clause that prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives- Trump granted influence to those that bought real estate and stayed at resorts, joined his country clubs, rented out entire floors at Trump hotels (especially in D.C), and he especially sold influence to those that leased offices at NYC and San Francisco buildings among others.

  Coronavirus crippled his incredible raking in of moneys as influence buyers started staying at home.
  

  Also, staying at his own resorts and super over-charging the Secret Service to have rooms and use the honor bars and all that- to the tune of several millions.
  

  While his his attempt to host the G-7 Summit at his property failed, there was plenty of smaller day-to-day business at Mar-A-Lago, so that's the real reason he golfed so much despite saying he would not.
  
  I know- Min, you won't let facts get in your way despite swearing that you won't get fooled again.

  
  
  
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  Some Other Terms For The "Big Bang".....

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  folks: as you probably all know, it has been speculated that the whole universe, or cosmos, started with what has been called "the big bang.

  " but, i've thought up some other terms for the "bb".

  how about the big boom....or, the big kaboom....or, the big explosion...the big ignition...or...the big cosmic fartation.

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  TOOTS- The Opposite Of The Singularity
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  Do You Think Trump Will Make A Comeback?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think he could get reinstated as president?

  do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  There is nothing coming out of the biased bogus recount and there is no provision within the Constitution for overturning the election results.
  
  Donald would certainly want to run again. Even with a snowball's chance, it's a great way for him to steal more money. But I do think that he has lost millions of followers who have figured out what he is. If he is not liquidated for criminal tax evasion, he won't have enough support to win the nomination.
  
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  Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

  by joey jojo in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/sa-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-proposal-rejected/100228038.

  so this religion is a hoax?.

  it seems just as legit as another religion i can think of..

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  OnTheWayOut

  The last line of the article is part of a statement from a spokesperson:
  
  "Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think."